You know that is a silly comparison right?
Rules for kids and rules for the oval office cannot be compared, I dont see any 8 and 14 year old lying under oath to their parents or being punished for things like treason, although some kids should be.
you cant impeach a president simply because you don’t like him/hate him and cherry pick issues
The constitution is clear, you can impeach a president, vp president for crimes of treason, bribery ( which the constitution was vague about) and high crimes of misdemeanor
if that was the case then every president should have been impeached as they broke a lot of rules, you Democrats need to stop with your hypocritical stance
They seem to care nothing of Hillary’s corrupt lifetime, her string of “suicided” associates, her obstruction of justice, her Benghazi lies, etc ad infinitum…or Obama’s promised "flexibility in dealing with Russia, Obama/Holder fast and furious gun running to the cartels…
Liberals can do no wrong…in the eyes of their liberal useful idiots.
Our Liberals lie to each other, until they find a lie they agree on. No man is perfect; but I watch our libs go to extremes, grasping straws & attempting to magnify “thee” most trivial issues concerning President Trump. Issues, that if it were a Democrat in office, would be totally ignored. We elect Presidents, we do not elect Popes.
I’m not torn, I’ll just follow Nancy Pelosi’s lead. She has good instincts here.
I tend to view the emotional situation as similar to the efforts to remove Scott Walker from office in Wisconsin a few years ago. I know there are clear differences in terms of potential criminality and morality, but the electoral feel seems similar and despite the “we can do more than one thing” mantra, it impeachment de-focuses everyone moving into an election year. Let SDNY play it out, hopefully focusing on financial crimes, and maybe they’ll find the Trump org is the money laundering org that it seems to be.
I do think Democrats need to keep pushing to get the redacted details in the Mueller report known at the congressional level and determine if the redactions were appropriate. If not, impeach Barr.
So the Dems are above the law and court decisions???
In disclosing the Mueller report, Attorney General William P. Barr will have to redact grand-jury information. That is the upshot of the rulingtoday by a divided panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.
I flagged this case, now called McKeever v. Barr (formerly McKeever v. Sessions ), last week. It did not arise out of the Mueller investigation, but it obviously has significant ramifications for the Mueller report — in particular, how much of it we will get to see.
At issue was this question: Does a federal court have the authority to order disclosure of grand-jury materials if the judge decides that the interests of justice warrant doing so; or is the judge limited to the exceptions to grand-jury secrecy that are spelled out in Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure? The D.C. Circuit’s McKeever ruling holds that the text of Rule 6(e) controls. Consequently, judges have no authority to authorize disclosure outside the rule.
This is significant for the Mueller report because Rule 6(e) does not contain an exception to secrecy that would permit disclosure to Congress.
I say go for it- the Dems will get their asses handed to them first in the Senate, where it will be a Bill Clinton Redux, then at the polls in 2020 as even Independents will be absolutely sick of the self righteous, virtue signaling, America hating Democrats and their endless ‘flatulecturing’.
I would advise people to read the systemic abuses by the Obama administration and think twice in what they are actually advocating for. Impeachment is just another mechanism in which the clueless leftist trolls here are in denial and the democrats scurrying like the cockroaches that they are desperately seeking cover!
“A newly released court order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) found that the National Security Agency, under former President Obama, routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall. In describing the violations, the FISA court said the illegal searches conducted by the NSA under Obama were “widespread” and created a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue.” These new discoveries come from a recently unsealed FISA court document dated April 26, 2017 and center around a hearing dated October 26, 2017, just days before the 2016 election, in which the FISA court apparently learned for the first time of “widespread” and illegal spying on American citizens by the NSA under the Obama administration.”
Its coming whether you like it or not! Marxists be dammed when necks are stretched and swinging from the tree of treason.
There is a thread on this! “Spygate” but I thought its relevance applies due to any impeachment talk here is akin to poking a sleeping bear. To those who entertain such fantasies be careful for what you wish for!
I don’t see the point in impeachment. Yes, of course Trump deserves to be impeached and removed from office. But things are never as simple as we would like them to be. Barr, acting in bad faith, ran circles around the Dems with the release of the Mueller report. If the Dems are as disorganized with impeachment hearings as they have been battling Barr then impeachment will be a disaster and will backfire completely. Besides, it’d go nowhere in the Senate. McConnell is McConnell. Forget it.
All impeachment would do is rile up Trump’s “base” and give them ammunition to paint the Dems as obstructionist, bitter, blah blah blah. And you know what? The GOP stays on message and has an entire network blasting their message 24/7. It’ll work and will likely put “swing” voters at risk.
2020 is going to be an incredibly nasty election. Trump and the GOP are going to use every trick in the book. All efforts and energy must be focused on winning the election. Pelosi can best help with that mission by having the various committee Chairmen put constant pressure on the administration. Ideally resulting in a consistent drip of news illustrating just how corrupt this administration is.
In order to win the election, you must first get beyond your dementia.
President Trump has done more good things for this country in his tenure so far than BHO did in eight years of trying to tear it down.
Yes, what liberals would love to do is simply lie and have all the idiots believe them. It is extremely difficult to fool intelligent people with incessant lies.
AG Barr was not obligated to release the Mueller report. He did so and the Democrats shit their pants because of the truth exposed in it.
Tough shit!
The Dems are disorganized with or without impeachment hearings. The useful idiots have elected outspoken morons to Congress. Pelosi and Schumer have their work cut out for them at least until the 2020 election.
There is no more ammunition needed to paint the Dems as obstructionists. They have been painting themselves ever since November, 2016.
This is laughable even though sprinkled with truisms. Dem Committee chairs have been trying to pressure the administration since January 2017. That’s all they do.
The dripping you see is that of the truth regarding the corruption of the Obama administration and its weaponizing of the DOJ to spy on the opposition.
Further investigation into spygate will cause heads to roll in the Democrat Party.
The scum that has formed on the top layer of the Democrat Party bowl of soup is about to be pulled off and thrown away.
Wait until the IG report comes out. You think the Mueller report hurt the Dems, the IG report will be exponentially worse.
Where do you get that nonsense? Did you read the Mueller report? Apparently you didn’t.
You think they don’t paint themselves as obstructionists? What meaningful piece of legislation hav they crafted? After the mueller report why does the leftists in the House continue obstructing the administration with investigations going no where? Why is it they continue to allow unlimited immigration via the southern border? 1400 are released into the US daily as IC lacks facilities to detain them? Why is it the disaster on the border isn’t addressed by the House?
This has to be a troll post right? I mean there’s no response to anyone from “Sooner” and no actual evidence to support an impeachment. Just blanket statements like, “He deserves to be impeached” and “as new information comes to light”. No facts about anything…no reasons why and no information. This is the same type of bs the kids at my college say when they claim Trumps racist and when I ask why they say they don’t want to talk about politics.
…and they know it well. They have no electable platform to stand on…except FREE STUFF FOR EVERYBODY (which always appeals to the useful idiots)…and they can’t come up with a way to pay for the ‘free stuff’ without totally wrecking the economy and bringing in a new socialist quagmire!
The Democrats are LOSERS! They are resigned to the fact that the only way to beat Donald Trump is to take him out of office prior to the election.
