And sometimes many children . . .
I understand he runs a 1-man bakery for a living, but don’t ask how he can support 22 sprogs and 2 adults on selling a few loaves of bread. It’s fecklessness like this, not to mention the irresponsibility of hastening the coming global population explosion, which makes socialism fine in theory but not in practice.
Interesting, do you think the lack of innovation might have something to do with the generations who don’t know history or what hard work is? We never once had a problem with capitalism until the definition became perverted through the Democratic Party. Our population didn’t fall off, inventions were prolific, and no one was against capitalism because they understood it. This is a generational issue where certain persons believe life gains are immediate and unfortunately societal inability to understand and provide good customer service.
You have to know what a person’s needs are to invent something that would survive the scrutiny of capitalism.
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As long as capitalism is properly regulated, not many are against it.
A lot of truth to your post.
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Years ago because a tax thing the federal government ended up owning a whorehouse … they tried to run it but had to shut it down because it was losing money. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very strange, since the government is so good at fucking people.
Do you have an example of a truly socialistic society where the people own the means of production.
Do you honestly think that the internet would be what it is today without private enterprise?
How nice. People work a life time and save for their retirement and you want to take it away from them. In a true socialist country you would take it away from everyone making everyone equal. Exactly what would be the incentive to excel and make more of everyone makes the same?
And of course as always you play the race card.
p.s. You may be left with nothing as you apparently are unable to move ahead in life.
Because Limbaugh and Hannity has told them it’s the same thing as communism.
USSR stood for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
It was Communism.
You probably missed the Socialist part in the middle of the name.
No democratic socialist has ever advocated any of this.
Communism (from Latin communis , “common, universal”)[1][2] is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6]
Communism as we know it is state capitalism.
No wonder the Rockefellers (dubbed the First Family of the USSR) were the boss in the old Soviet Union. The Soviet Union performed whatever it was dictated to them by the Rockefellers.
It’s a matter of record that they financed the Russian Revolution.
Where was Lenin when the Revolution occurred?
Where was Trotsky? He was in New Jersey and sent back to Russia with a lot of money
“The difference between Socialism & Communism, is the AK 47 pointed at your head”. Vietnamese Immigrant.
Do you have an example of a truly socialistic society where the people own the means of production. Jimsouth - probably in some monasteries, etc. Other than that, it really doesn’t work; and the reason it works in monasteries is, all involved are agreeable & never forced into that lifestyle. I’ve known many monks; and from what I gathered, they all seemed content. I do love the Trappist lifestyle. Trappist beer - Wikipedia
To be honest, Trappist products are more of a socialist - capitalist enterprise; but the order is also into serious charity work. https://youtu.be/X784gpj8Xog?t=2
That’s basically true, communism operates under overt authoritarian government. Eliminates private property and cash.
Btw, in Sanders flavor, democratic socialism, he supports private business/production, private property and expansion of what has ALREADY evolved in America.
And unless everyone involved with socialism, doesn’t share equally, down to the last cent; it ain’t socialism. Just more hypocrisy. You cannot tell me socialist leaders live as simply as the fools they drag into the mix.
Well that’s the point of Sanders view. It’s not straight up socialism. I’m satisfied you haven’t read his platform, it’s lengthy, and interviews where he has discussed it. It can’t be understood with cherry picked sound bites on Hannity and Carlson.
By supporting private means of production, the ownership of property, you leave the same room for incentive that has existed all along. In his vision, people who work harder, are innovative, and entrepreneurial still can have more as a result, it’s just a system where we continue to improve the lot of everyone, where everyone has basic needs met. Health, welfare and education.
That said, I personally would have some space between myself and Sanders in the realm of welfare reform. I supported Clinton’s personal responsibility act regarding welfare reform and I support the most recent welfare reform announced by the Trump administration. I would go even farther than either of them though. I would heartily support bringing back the WPA and CCC which provided needed aid to families, allowed families to retain dignity, and provided advancements to US infrastructure that were wonderful, as an outdoor enthusiast, I use them regularly still.
Oh, I don’t doubt Sanders does have visions. Myself, I worked for all I have. I earned all I have. I’m content with that. I never took a nickel from anyone. So who has the right to control my life; or to even suggest I live by their ideology? I do believe ( if someone is capable ), no worky, no eaty.
Well that’s the point of Sanders view. It’s not straight up socialism.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jimsouth - Well, this covers it. Benjy Benjamin:
Now look! We’ve figured it seventeen different ways, and each time we figured it, it was no good, because no matter how we figured it, somebody don’t like the way we figured it! So now, there’s only one way to figure it. And that is, every man, including the old bag, for himself!
Well, I didn’t think you would actually read anything about it.
No ones suggesting your life would be controlled, that’s in the totalitarian state of communism that you keep conflating with democratic socialism.
Good, let Sanders or anyone else fuck with the masses; as long as I’m allowed to live by what has always seemed to work for me. I earned it; it’s mine. Easy. I owe no one.