Trump closing border with Mexico

Are you serious?
I guess we could go autonomous, temporarily, or maybe become more reliant on china. Is that what you are suggesting?

Support your claims or admit you made it up.

Help me here, what claims did I make???

He’s responding to me @LouMan.

I realized after i posted my source, that it was a bit outdated.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL32934.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiR5_bKu7DhAhVRPq0KHZgdCToQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw22cwm7OH4X1oxsvqn8WESw
If you think that we can cut off imports from the Mexican border, and be ok, you are delusional.

That post wasn’t directed at you, it’s directed at Dave which is why he is hiding.

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A moment too soon. :wink:

One last time, support your claim above or admit you made it up.

What goods do we get from Mexico necessary for our survival that can’t be produced in the US or aren’t elsewhere?

It’s not that we can’t “somehow” provide them. Its that our entire economy is structured to import those goods that are neccessary to sustain the lives of our citizens.
I actually agree with the end goal you are proposing, but destroying the economy is not the way to accomplish it.

Still making up bullshit, gee what a shock.

There is nothing we get from Mexico that is essential to our survival.

Just man up and admit you made it up.

If all trade were cut off with Mexico tomorrow it would be boost to the US economy of betwen 600bn and 1.2 Trillion dollars not even counting the remittances that should be cut off as well totalling another 35Bn.

Still attacking me instead of providing an intelligent response.
Do you understand that our economy has shifted to technology instead of goods?
We still need those goods to survive, but we pay for them by importing goods and exporting technology.
A simplification, but for the most part true.

I’m accurately describing your claims above. You keep making up bullshit and then deflecting when called on it.

Our trade deficit is a huge spewing hole in our economic aorta.

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Then cite something. You keep attacking with no teeth.

You have yet to cite anything to support your claims while we have both cited our trade deficit with Mexico and I have also cited the total trade deficit.

More than half a trillion dollars a year just vanishing into nothingness is unsustainable.

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When top Mexican Officials recently announced they will not stop caravans going to the USA, it really is about calling Trump’s bluff.

The question remains! Will Trump carry out his threat? What are the odds he actually does close down the border?

I’d say probably pretty good barring Mexico suddenly stepping up.

Its not “vanishing into nothingness.”
Its clear that you dont understand what a trade deficit actually is or mean. Quite simply, it means that we buy more than we sell from that trade partner.

No shit Maynard! That is money that is constantly bleeding out of the US never to return.

Ot won’t let me post 3 in a row, so this is a bit late:

Its a false equivalence, because the Vatican border is about 2 miles long, with a security force of approximately 140 Swiss guards. The US/mexico border is about 1954 miles long. In order to have the equivalent security forces, we would need nearly 137,000 border patrol agents along the border. That would be approximately 7 billion dollars in salaries, just for the labor force.

You missed something major, we are actually BUYING THINGS

I haven’t missed anything. It is a continual net flow of dollars out of the US to the tune of over half a bn dollars a year. That money isn’t coming back.