If Trump wins, we need to outlaw Marxism/Communism/Socialism, and a hundred other bad things

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And another in the same region February, 2013 on the record

Good stuff, thanks for posting. This is exactly the kind of cross-interest exchange possible on sites like this; unexpected new knowledge provided, gratis!

Answers to questions you wouldn’t think of asking. Like shopping at Salvation Army Stores, -you find stuff you didn’t know you wanted!!

Lowly people of my ilk can’t comment on things like Ted talk. But it is refreshing to see the science community lampooned for what they have become. I cited Sir Richard Burton and Ben Franklin earlier; would such people be able to exist today, and contribute or would they be shouted down? Or Newton?

Clever guy, that Milankovitch, “… cycles describe the collective effects of changes…In the 1920s, he hypothesized that variations in eccentricity, axial tilt, and precession combined to result in cyclical variations in the intra-annual and latitudinal distribution of solar radiation at the Earth’s surface…” His stole my theory 20 years before I was born. His charts show exactly what I thought they’d look like, the periods within minor oscillations too insignificant to leave a geological footprint, or, much more likely; the observations having not been noted because here in the ensuing 100 years since his original postulation, nobody’s looking that close for that evidence. An artifact of just exactly the same attitudes that ignored the correlation between KT & Chicxlulub! Wanna bet that if they put his principle theory into a program on a modern supercomputer that there wouldn’t be some Solar and Earth cycle conjunctions that jump up and correlate with climate/geological events? Why haven’t they tested his theory recently? Isn’t that exactly what PhD. candidates do to become famous? How many other such projects are missing in action?

I would only add that I think close passes of large space objects can also perturb the Earth’s rotation, a little or a lot. I view this as an absolute. The only question being a matter of the math involved of velocity and how close the approach. Can anyone in their right mind assume that the large object events that created this Solar system’s planets stopped completely at some point, or is it a lot more likely there’s merely more time in-between passes? Somebody knows this.

Ted talks strikes a nerve like William Tell picks off apples.

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There are some things in life you don’t want to witness close up; train wrecks, airplane crashes, tornado, explosions, et al/. People see fiery explosions in movies and heroes just knocked to the ground. There are pieces of stuff in that air and they are traveling like bullets. The rule of thumb is if you are close enough to the blast to feel the impact of the shock waves, you’re going to get burned on that side. And a hand grenade in a house-size room will seriously break everything in the room; nobody gets up and moves on with the war.

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A series of explosions at the nuke plant in Fukushima in 2011 comes to mind. There were four reactors and they all blew up and the official narrative was that they experienced melt-down and hydrogen exploded. One photo, however, shows a mushroom cloud and it was an extremely powerful explosion. Was it a nuclear explosion?
I worked at a nuke plant some 20 years ago as a translator and found that reactor buildings were extremely sturdy. No way a hydrogen explosion can take down the whole building.

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And yet they decided to ban the talks given by Graham Hancock and Rupert Sheldrake which took place on the same day, in London, I believe.

Comet Shoemaker-Levy collided with Jupiter in 1994 after breaking up in many pieces and the whole event was televised. Any major piece of them would have annihilated Earth, so I hear.

The solar system is a very violent place. It is 100% believable that the “asteroid belt” between Mars and Jupiter once was a planet but somehow blew up.

Despite all the impacts from comet and asteroid strikes, Earth is protected to a large extent by the presence of Jupiter and Saturn, which are much larger and thus have a much larger gravitational force to attract the ilk of Shoemaker-Levy.

I wonder which candidate — Trump and whoever — Jupiter and Saturn favor in astrological terms. LOL

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So, I looked these up and find more scientists with questioning minds, unlike the climitblunderers. It’s wonderful to hear about the search for planet 9, too. In science, nothing, at least very little is absolutely known and there is lots to learn.

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I don’t know how authentic the photos are, but one thing is certain.
We don’t live in a world — or universe — where everything is static, be it climate or fauna and flora.
The matrix is a bunch of lies and hoaxes.

We in the west worry about who will be the next President or prices of the gas and food. Or worse still, the shape of the world, flat or globe.

The majority of the world worry about whether they will survive or starve to death tomorrow.

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As regards starving; back in the 60s there was a lot of starvation in the 3rd world. It was due to a bunch of factors having mostly to do with inefficient farming in the 3rd world. Along came more & better breeding of strains that resisted some diseases and pests and lousy soil and the linchpin; nitrogen fertilizer from natural gas that was cheap, and using Leonardite (soft brown coal) from shale that was humus bearing with trace-elements, and kelp, and very ordinary clay could be cultivated to grow crops to the point that 3rd world farmers that couldn’t feed themselves could now produce abundance to feed their nation and export, too. If they had rain, farming was possible. The world that was going to starve to death could double in population.

Socialism wasn’t working too good, it was tried on every continent, with and without descending into outright communism, but it couldn’t stay on an even keel because, “Sooner or later you run out of other people’s money”. The nuclear war thing was a standoff because communism could seize govts, but they couldn’t prosper. The Masters of The Universe needed another ploy to scare the world into submitting to their will, and Green Peace was the vehicle of choice. Save The Whales!! evolving to, Presenting… Global Cooling; the Ice Age Version, We’re Going To Freeze to Death! Uh… wait a minute… make that Global Heating; We’re Going Fry. Uh…no, stop the presses, -Climate Change is Imminent; it’s a two-headed monster that could go either way…

Bases covered.

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It’s a case of never ending cat-and-mouse.
The more food production, the larger the population, which behooves more food production… ad infinitum.

Infinitum? Not really. The earth environment has its limitation.

Some people are already talking about Mars colonization. Where does this madness end?

Let’s say Rupert Sheldrake is right and Earth has consciousness (as a live being). What would it/she/he want to do with this parasitic species called Homo sapiens?

Maybe let it commit a mass suicide?

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And I forgot Wuhan Virus that took extra lives because the world allowed the Big Lie to exist. All that had to happen was to blackmail CCP with a total blockage of trade with the free world’s economies and they would have confessed. On the other hand,there WAS money to be made…

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Just like in the US and elsewhere, the powers that be in China are not monolithic. Some of them want things done this way, while others want that way.

It is no rocket science that the ruling class (Strange thing to say about a communist/socialist country, allegedly) want a drastic population reduction.

Lockdowns in large cities in China were so severe, they even welded iron bars outside the doors of “infected families” in highrise buildings. Some tried to climb out of the windows and fell to their deaths.

There was something very fishy about the floods too. A few million died, or so I heard.

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I heard about thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of rats / mice marching straight into a river or ocean and drown. It’s perhaps anecdotal, but animal suicides do seem to happen.

Animal suicide - Wikipedia

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You’re forgetting what happens when societies reach a higher level of prosperity; they cut back on the number of children, and at some level below the replacement level.

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I heard about thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of rats / mice marching straight into a river or ocean and drown. It’s perhaps anecdotal, but animal suicides do seem to happen.

Animal suicide - Wikipedia

I think those are examples of the momentum of crowd behavior in which the animals in front can’t stop because the masses immediately behind are pushing them forward and the animals in the back can’t see where they’re going and are afraid of being left behind. I’m going to employ a misuse of analogy of this that might draw fire…

Nvidia stock is going nuts, priced at 32 x earnings with no end in sight of a price too high. Same as the rats: Those that own the stock don’t want to sell because it’s going up every day; more people are jumping in at these wild prices because it’s the only hot stock available at the same time that so many others have flatly disappointed (too many to list), so there’s not much else to get excited about while Nvidia is a manufacturer with exactly the hottest item in trade at exactly this moment in time selling everything they can produce, but assembling a competitive product plus the equipment to mass produce it takes years. This is like the only gas station for 50 miles, and you’re out of gas… The question is not if you’re going to pay whatever the guy says… He knows that if you stop, he’s got you.

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Which societies?
Northwest Europe, for example, but it happened only in the latter half of 20th century. Now they are letting “refugees” from Africa flood their countries and giving them all sorts of freebies.
Not a great distance away from Northwest Europe, Ukrainian women are no longer having children because they have lost hope for the future.

White genocide much?

Hunter/gatherer societies on the other hand always knew the level of population their environment could handle (I think the term is “carrying capacity”) and acted accordingly.

Which course of action is smarter?
Which one will cause more misery and suffering?

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The strange mummies were interesting, but the credibility of the whole deteriorates with each successive individual topic. By the time you get to the 1946 cell? phone, it’s the same old same old. The Loch Ness photos are a stretch because hobby photographers have enough pixels to blow up distance shots and identify detail, so nada there. Non- terrestrial intelligent life is not hard to believe, but is interstellar travel worth the candle? I think not.

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Are you talking about our species making intelligent decisions about procreation? I noted that zero pop growth and lower than replacement was common as societies became more prosperous (as a contrast to poor farmers), but I left out a value judgment. I think boom & bust cycles are more common limiters in animals, plants and pests and whatever else is on the planet. The lowered birth rate of uppity prosperous societies is not an intelligent choice. It is a lot more a reflection of the kind of thinking that the intelligentsia makes along the lines of living in ultra-dense-population cities, voting for the continuation of govts like Bill DeBlasio, 2 terms, thence Eric Adams, plus Kathy Hochul, and more of Biden in the teeth of what is. Our university system is filled with our best and brightest; explain that!

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I forgot to mention that they don’t work many hours.
In many countries people work 40 hours plus per week (plus commuting which is no small task in large cities)

Some anthropologists have spent time with “primitive” tribes and found out that the tribesmen don’t spend many hours at work. Far less than 40 per week.

Womenfolk who gather plant materials etc and do whatever chores sit together a lot and chat, gossip, etc.

Men who hunt animals often go out in small groups and spend many hours together. When they lie in ambush, it may require nerves ofiron sitting or lying quiet for extended periods of time. Dramatic buffalo hunting on horseback was practiced only after the Spaniards introduced horses to North America.

Whether the men are successful in hunts or not, they sit around fire each evening and swap stories, chant, sing, etc. The Neanderthals as well as Cro-Magnons in prehistoric Europe sat in caves and did their religious rites. That’s what cave paintings were for.

As for Peru, I’m sure highly advanced technology was used to flatten the top of a large mountain to create a plateau on which the “Nazca lines” were drawn. However, giant drawings of a monkey and spider were probably made later by indigenous population without the help of beings with advanced technology.

Dr John Brandenburg’s (NASA) theory that the civilization on Mars was destroyed in a nuclear war millions of years ago makes perfect sense.

Why does our blood resemble the Martian ocean more so than Earth ocean?
Why is our circadian rhythm corresponds with a Mars day, and out of sync with Earth day? (That’s why people tend to stay up late and wish to sleep longer in the morning)

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Ancient Greeks and their relative Macedonians experienced large population booms which permitted them to fight the Persian empire squarely and, under Alexander the Great, conquer the entire Near East and a large chunk of Centrral Asia.

Same for the Romans. Without a large Roman population, they couldn’t have expanded their empire along the entire coast of the Mediterranean and on to Gallia and Britain.

Same for the Turks of East Asia in the 6th ceentury followed by the Arabs in the 7th century and Scandinavians a few centuries later. And then the Mongols in the 13th century.

“Boom and bust” seem to apply to specific races of people, and not to the entirety of humanity.

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I‘ve spent my life in factories, and that’s the way much work is arranged; for women; in groups where they can talk and work at the same time. It’s not standard work practice; saying so could get a bunch of people up your ass about not treating womenfolk respectfully, you male chauvinist pig. Big whigs don’t have to get any particular job done, that’s what the factory floor supervisors’ job is, so engineers arrange workers in neat little lines that make it hard for the ladies to bullshit all day, and cycle people thru the mills. Il Cognoscenti arranges the ladies in circles close enough to work & talk and turnover disappears. Women have tiny hands & fingers and dexterity that makes men look like oafs and will do assembly of small delicate things all day long and are good at bullshitting and keeping production at some reasonable level. Men do heavy work and view it as a challenge. If the job is physical and pacing with machinery, men do fine. Generally there are men jobs and women jobs but you’re not allowed to say so. Put a person in the wrong job and they won’t be happy and won’t do it right. Put a man in a woman’s job and he can’t do it; put a woman on man’s job and she will do it poorly. The best way to assign workers is give men man jobs and women woman jobs and if they complain give them the job they say they should be doing, it usually doesn’t take long for them to soften up and when you see they are struggling put them where they belong. If you watch people you can see who fits in what and get that arranged.

If you go buy the book, it matters not whose book; you cycle too many out the door. If you match people-types with appropriate tasks, you get lower turnover. Everybody is not good at something, some people aren’t worth at shit and you have to give them their worst nightmare and hope they don’t come back from lunch. There are happy and unhappy people; willing workers and lazy bums; people who eagerly learn tasks and others who can’t wipe their ass right. Mankind is imperfect, to say the least. Burn this after reading.

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I worked as a translator at a joint-venture automotive plant in California, which produced automotive seats, involving at lot of intricate sewing by human hand. This work could not be automated and productivity depended 100% on human dexterity and speed.

I first visited the Japanese partner factory outside Tokyo and was amazed at the speed of women doing the sewing work. Then I helped the engineers start up a new factory, outside Stockton (which is a nice place.)

The Americans did the hiring and the Japanese did the training from scatch and they were exasperated. After a few months, they managed to reach a certain level of productivity there, although the speed was much lower than at the “mother plant.”

The Japanese came up with what they call “cells” occupied by 3, 4 or maybe 5 “operaters” who constantly move around the cell clockwise or counterclockwise, never sitting. Since they constantly move about, in-depth chatting was not possible, unless they talk very loud which inhibits rude gossip.

If I was a plant manager, I would not have cared about chatting as long as work is done. But the management is never the same people as the people who do the manual work.

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The hierarchy of anything always assume THEIR goals and standards are the thing to be maximized, even worshiped, and all else is subsidiary. The happiness or contentment of the workers lays in paying them and they should appreciate the largess of the company, like good little workers.

People resent that sort of condensation, oddly enough, and it doesn’t breed loyalty, either. They want to be treated as being important to the overall effort. If you want the stuff they make; and want low scrap rates and high quality and production goals to be as important to them as they are to you, then they are, indeed important to the overall effort. There are dozens of screws in a clock; not one is unimportant.

So, the immediate supervisor/foreman needs to be there in the area, mending fences as I used to say, continuously walking thru the entire area under his care so that seeing the boss is not new and startling, it’s routine. He is not a sign that someone has done something wrong; nobody fears seeing him, he is not bad news. He knows everyone’s job and trains new people, so no one can bullshit him. He speaks to everyone and everyone feels free to speak to him about anything, baseball scores, the weather, what’s the next color?, I’m low on thread, those pallets are in the way, my machine is cycling slow, the ovens seen too hot, anything. No has to come looking for him because he’ll be around 5 or 10 minutes from now. He’s never in his office; there is no one who needs supervising in his office if he is a factory rat. There are few surprises; no, “Yeah, it’s been running bad for hours…” pile of scrap to greet you after someone comes to the office to say, “got a minute, boss?”

He responds to every need, muy pronto. When told, “I need thread”, he turns on his heel and goes to thread heaven and gets what’s needed and makes it known to Mr. Thread that he needs to make his rounds. The workers treat him like an integral part of the job & day, and depend upon him just like he depends upon them, all of this contributes to the bottom line and continued employment.