If Trump wins, we need to outlaw Marxism/Communism/Socialism, and a hundred other bad things

I don’t know how authentic the photos are, but one thing is certain.
We don’t live in a world — or universe — where everything is static, be it climate or fauna and flora.
The matrix is a bunch of lies and hoaxes.

We in the west worry about who will be the next President or prices of the gas and food. Or worse still, the shape of the world, flat or globe.

The majority of the world worry about whether they will survive or starve to death tomorrow.

As regards starving; back in the 60s there was a lot of starvation in the 3rd world. It was due to a bunch of factors having mostly to do with inefficient farming in the 3rd world. Along came more & better breeding of strains that resisted some diseases and pests and lousy soil and the linchpin; nitrogen fertilizer from natural gas that was cheap, and using Leonardite (soft brown coal) from shale that was humus bearing with trace-elements, and kelp, and very ordinary clay could be cultivated to grow crops to the point that 3rd world farmers that couldn’t feed themselves could now produce abundance to feed their nation and export, too. If they had rain, farming was possible. The world that was going to starve to death could double in population.

Socialism wasn’t working too good, it was tried on every continent, with and without descending into outright communism, but it couldn’t stay on an even keel because, “Sooner or later you run out of other people’s money”. The nuclear war thing was a standoff because communism could seize govts, but they couldn’t prosper. The Masters of The Universe needed another ploy to scare the world into submitting to their will, and Green Peace was the vehicle of choice. Save The Whales!! evolving to, Presenting… Global Cooling; the Ice Age Version, We’re Going To Freeze to Death! Uh… wait a minute… make that Global Heating; We’re Going Fry. Uh…no, stop the presses, -Climate Change is Imminent; it’s a two-headed monster that could go either way…

Bases covered.

It’s a case of never ending cat-and-mouse.
The more food production, the larger the population, which behooves more food production… ad infinitum.

Infinitum? Not really. The earth environment has its limitation.

Some people are already talking about Mars colonization. Where does this madness end?

Let’s say Rupert Sheldrake is right and Earth has consciousness (as a live being). What would it/she/he want to do with this parasitic species called Homo sapiens?

Maybe let it commit a mass suicide?

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And I forgot Wuhan Virus that took extra lives because the world allowed the Big Lie to exist. All that had to happen was to blackmail CCP with a total blockage of trade with the free world’s economies and they would have confessed. On the other hand,there WAS money to be made…

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Just like in the US and elsewhere, the powers that be in China are not monolithic. Some of them want things done this way, while others want that way.

It is no rocket science that the ruling class (Strange thing to say about a communist/socialist country, allegedly) want a drastic population reduction.

Lockdowns in large cities in China were so severe, they even welded iron bars outside the doors of “infected families” in highrise buildings. Some tried to climb out of the windows and fell to their deaths.

There was something very fishy about the floods too. A few million died, or so I heard.

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I heard about thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of rats / mice marching straight into a river or ocean and drown. It’s perhaps anecdotal, but animal suicides do seem to happen.

Animal suicide - Wikipedia

You’re forgetting what happens when societies reach a higher level of prosperity; they cut back on the number of children, and at some level below the replacement level.

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I heard about thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of rats / mice marching straight into a river or ocean and drown. It’s perhaps anecdotal, but animal suicides do seem to happen.

Animal suicide - Wikipedia

I think those are examples of the momentum of crowd behavior in which the animals in front can’t stop because the masses immediately behind are pushing them forward and the animals in the back can’t see where they’re going and are afraid of being left behind. I’m going to employ a misuse of analogy of this that might draw fire…

Nvidia stock is going nuts, priced at 32 x earnings with no end in sight of a price too high. Same as the rats: Those that own the stock don’t want to sell because it’s going up every day; more people are jumping in at these wild prices because it’s the only hot stock available at the same time that so many others have flatly disappointed (too many to list), so there’s not much else to get excited about while Nvidia is a manufacturer with exactly the hottest item in trade at exactly this moment in time selling everything they can produce, but assembling a competitive product plus the equipment to mass produce it takes years. This is like the only gas station for 50 miles, and you’re out of gas… The question is not if you’re going to pay whatever the guy says… He knows that if you stop, he’s got you.

Which societies?
Northwest Europe, for example, but it happened only in the latter half of 20th century. Now they are letting “refugees” from Africa flood their countries and giving them all sorts of freebies.
Not a great distance away from Northwest Europe, Ukrainian women are no longer having children because they have lost hope for the future.

White genocide much?

Hunter/gatherer societies on the other hand always knew the level of population their environment could handle (I think the term is “carrying capacity”) and acted accordingly.

Which course of action is smarter?
Which one will cause more misery and suffering?

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The strange mummies were interesting, but the credibility of the whole deteriorates with each successive individual topic. By the time you get to the 1946 cell? phone, it’s the same old same old. The Loch Ness photos are a stretch because hobby photographers have enough pixels to blow up distance shots and identify detail, so nada there. Non- terrestrial intelligent life is not hard to believe, but is interstellar travel worth the candle? I think not.

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Are you talking about our species making intelligent decisions about procreation? I noted that zero pop growth and lower than replacement was common as societies became more prosperous (as a contrast to poor farmers), but I left out a value judgment. I think boom & bust cycles are more common limiters in animals, plants and pests and whatever else is on the planet. The lowered birth rate of uppity prosperous societies is not an intelligent choice. It is a lot more a reflection of the kind of thinking that the intelligentsia makes along the lines of living in ultra-dense-population cities, voting for the continuation of govts like Bill DeBlasio, 2 terms, thence Eric Adams, plus Kathy Hochul, and more of Biden in the teeth of what is. Our university system is filled with our best and brightest; explain that!

I forgot to mention that they don’t work many hours.
In many countries people work 40 hours plus per week (plus commuting which is no small task in large cities)

Some anthropologists have spent time with “primitive” tribes and found out that the tribesmen don’t spend many hours at work. Far less than 40 per week.

Womenfolk who gather plant materials etc and do whatever chores sit together a lot and chat, gossip, etc.

Men who hunt animals often go out in small groups and spend many hours together. When they lie in ambush, it may require nerves ofiron sitting or lying quiet for extended periods of time. Dramatic buffalo hunting on horseback was practiced only after the Spaniards introduced horses to North America.

Whether the men are successful in hunts or not, they sit around fire each evening and swap stories, chant, sing, etc. The Neanderthals as well as Cro-Magnons in prehistoric Europe sat in caves and did their religious rites. That’s what cave paintings were for.

As for Peru, I’m sure highly advanced technology was used to flatten the top of a large mountain to create a plateau on which the “Nazca lines” were drawn. However, giant drawings of a monkey and spider were probably made later by indigenous population without the help of beings with advanced technology.

Dr John Brandenburg’s (NASA) theory that the civilization on Mars was destroyed in a nuclear war millions of years ago makes perfect sense.

Why does our blood resemble the Martian ocean more so than Earth ocean?
Why is our circadian rhythm corresponds with a Mars day, and out of sync with Earth day? (That’s why people tend to stay up late and wish to sleep longer in the morning)

Ancient Greeks and their relative Macedonians experienced large population booms which permitted them to fight the Persian empire squarely and, under Alexander the Great, conquer the entire Near East and a large chunk of Centrral Asia.

Same for the Romans. Without a large Roman population, they couldn’t have expanded their empire along the entire coast of the Mediterranean and on to Gallia and Britain.

Same for the Turks of East Asia in the 6th ceentury followed by the Arabs in the 7th century and Scandinavians a few centuries later. And then the Mongols in the 13th century.

“Boom and bust” seem to apply to specific races of people, and not to the entirety of humanity.

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I‘ve spent my life in factories, and that’s the way much work is arranged; for women; in groups where they can talk and work at the same time. It’s not standard work practice; saying so could get a bunch of people up your ass about not treating womenfolk respectfully, you male chauvinist pig. Big whigs don’t have to get any particular job done, that’s what the factory floor supervisors’ job is, so engineers arrange workers in neat little lines that make it hard for the ladies to bullshit all day, and cycle people thru the mills. Il Cognoscenti arranges the ladies in circles close enough to work & talk and turnover disappears. Women have tiny hands & fingers and dexterity that makes men look like oafs and will do assembly of small delicate things all day long and are good at bullshitting and keeping production at some reasonable level. Men do heavy work and view it as a challenge. If the job is physical and pacing with machinery, men do fine. Generally there are men jobs and women jobs but you’re not allowed to say so. Put a person in the wrong job and they won’t be happy and won’t do it right. Put a man in a woman’s job and he can’t do it; put a woman on man’s job and she will do it poorly. The best way to assign workers is give men man jobs and women woman jobs and if they complain give them the job they say they should be doing, it usually doesn’t take long for them to soften up and when you see they are struggling put them where they belong. If you watch people you can see who fits in what and get that arranged.

If you go buy the book, it matters not whose book; you cycle too many out the door. If you match people-types with appropriate tasks, you get lower turnover. Everybody is not good at something, some people aren’t worth at shit and you have to give them their worst nightmare and hope they don’t come back from lunch. There are happy and unhappy people; willing workers and lazy bums; people who eagerly learn tasks and others who can’t wipe their ass right. Mankind is imperfect, to say the least. Burn this after reading.

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I worked as a translator at a joint-venture automotive plant in California, which produced automotive seats, involving at lot of intricate sewing by human hand. This work could not be automated and productivity depended 100% on human dexterity and speed.

I first visited the Japanese partner factory outside Tokyo and was amazed at the speed of women doing the sewing work. Then I helped the engineers start up a new factory, outside Stockton (which is a nice place.)

The Americans did the hiring and the Japanese did the training from scatch and they were exasperated. After a few months, they managed to reach a certain level of productivity there, although the speed was much lower than at the “mother plant.”

The Japanese came up with what they call “cells” occupied by 3, 4 or maybe 5 “operaters” who constantly move around the cell clockwise or counterclockwise, never sitting. Since they constantly move about, in-depth chatting was not possible, unless they talk very loud which inhibits rude gossip.

If I was a plant manager, I would not have cared about chatting as long as work is done. But the management is never the same people as the people who do the manual work.

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The hierarchy of anything always assume THEIR goals and standards are the thing to be maximized, even worshiped, and all else is subsidiary. The happiness or contentment of the workers lays in paying them and they should appreciate the largess of the company, like good little workers.

People resent that sort of condensation, oddly enough, and it doesn’t breed loyalty, either. They want to be treated as being important to the overall effort. If you want the stuff they make; and want low scrap rates and high quality and production goals to be as important to them as they are to you, then they are, indeed important to the overall effort. There are dozens of screws in a clock; not one is unimportant.

So, the immediate supervisor/foreman needs to be there in the area, mending fences as I used to say, continuously walking thru the entire area under his care so that seeing the boss is not new and startling, it’s routine. He is not a sign that someone has done something wrong; nobody fears seeing him, he is not bad news. He knows everyone’s job and trains new people, so no one can bullshit him. He speaks to everyone and everyone feels free to speak to him about anything, baseball scores, the weather, what’s the next color?, I’m low on thread, those pallets are in the way, my machine is cycling slow, the ovens seen too hot, anything. No has to come looking for him because he’ll be around 5 or 10 minutes from now. He’s never in his office; there is no one who needs supervising in his office if he is a factory rat. There are few surprises; no, “Yeah, it’s been running bad for hours…” pile of scrap to greet you after someone comes to the office to say, “got a minute, boss?”

He responds to every need, muy pronto. When told, “I need thread”, he turns on his heel and goes to thread heaven and gets what’s needed and makes it known to Mr. Thread that he needs to make his rounds. The workers treat him like an integral part of the job & day, and depend upon him just like he depends upon them, all of this contributes to the bottom line and continued employment.

From what I saw in Stockton and other places in the US, I got the impression that the management is totally ignorant of and uninterested in the situation on the production floor.

Racial tension, no matter how subtle, is always there even in California. Chinese women learned the sewing skill on the industrial sewing machines fast and others knew it.
The management knew they had to hire a certain number of a loud minority to avoid trouble and treat them with utmost care and the engineers from Japan had a hard time understanding it.
This is a case of diversity being extremely detrimental to industrial efficiency and productivity, far from diversity being any strength. (Whoever says that must be smoking something funny)

Diversity for diversity’s sake is unproductive in any way, and large corporations, -like govts, try to make rules to cover every possible contingency. What they do accomplish is making too many rigid rules that box-in everyone up and down the food chain. It precludes flexibility; insures that troublemakers can keep the pot boiling; keeps everyone on edge and afraid of stepping on toes. My first job after the Army had the first steps in men & women equality rules in the making, so I’ve been subjected to the entire process that got us here except for the last 15 years as retired. It’s always been us-versus-them in my experiences; -pick a side. Young men avoid women now, as I would if I was young now. One lament you don’t hear anymore? “…If I was young again…” If you’re old, you don’t envy youth. Don’t admire them, either. Don’t offer much unsolicited advice, either. Keep your head down and out of the line of fire. Online and anonymous is a useful outlet!

One of my favorite Dr. Thomas Sowell quotes:


Yet large organizations mandate it and make all the rules to force (enforce) its embrace by everyone, even, -maybe especially those being run over by the rules. And the proof is never in the pudding.

:roll_eyes:

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Paul Harvey had a Rest of the Story in which he told of an old, quaint graveyard in the middle of a golf course somewhere and the builder of the graveyard jealously precluded Republicans.

There are two personality types; they gravitate towards the two ends of the political spectrum, Dems & Repubs. You won’t see intellectual investigation into this kind of thinking from academia because it would be revealing in an unpleasant way, but we all know it in our hearts. Dems are jealous and anal-retentive, think dark thoughts much more than us, and do so an inordinate % of their time. We on the Right are happy for others who possess desirable things or ideas, memories, goals, gifts, position, grades, -anything that is worthy to have ourselves, or not. We’d like have all the same talents, luck, strength, good looks, just plain goods, too! I’d like a Cadillac, please! I’m the good-looking guy on the red chair on the right side of the room. The difference is we see what we like and start working to get it, or if not, just admire it as is, where is, anyway. The difference is we generally do not covet other peoples stuff. We might agree that the person who has “it” shouldn’t; might even agree that they shouldn’t and we should, but we still do that within the bounds of righteousness. I am not free to take what belongs to others; I am free to earn my own. If someone else has something they shouldn’t, then there are laws and rules and proper ways to right the wrongs involved, all having nothing to do with my “opinion”. It is not proper for me to say what someone has the right to have. The laws and mores of the society we live in dictate that for all. The Rule and Spirit of Law is what right-wingers live by.

The Left lives by a different set of personal values & guidelines. They decide; you abide. Or else. The Rule of Law is the principle guide, but if need be, the exact means sometimes has to be made helpful if the goal is worthy. Sometimes, the ends DO justify the means. Often, debate can’t settle an issue, in which case push needs to be increased to shove. Some ideas are beyond the stick-in-the-mud people, and when an issue becomes too important to await conversation of the masses, or at least the majority, you do what you have to do to advance the idea.

The Left doesn’t want to see this in black & white. They see themselves as thinking properly and all others wanting, just Deplorables, or Clinging to guns & bibles, but never, ever better than clever. Squirrels & pigs can be clever, but they can’t vote, yet. We view the world as right track/wrong track, and mostly correctable. But, we’d rather not spend our time thinking about anything to do with govt.

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Absolutely. And it is quite puzzling and annoying. I tried to live with it for a long time.

A friend told me a few years ago that, unless I support Biden/Dems and take covid measures (getting jabbed, voluntarily locking down, wearing masks, etc) seriously, he no longer wanted to be my friend. Interesting that neither of us are Americans and we don’t live in the same country. We meet only once in a few years.

As for covid, we live thousands of miles apart and we chat only on skype, so there’s zero chance of infecting each other. And his visceral hatred of Trump is shared by many, and I sort of understand his anti-elitism.

The left take politics seriously and believe politicis should govern our daily lives, even friendship. What does it tell you?

It is a religion. Either you are with us or against us.

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