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OK this is what I found on the subject and from what I read Catholic Priest perpetrated NO lies !
Prove me wrong .

Early Christians considered it their calling to spread and teach the gospel. One of the most important missionaries was the apostle Paul, a former persecutor of Christians.

Paul’s conversion to Christianity after he had a supernatural encounter with Jesus is described in Acts of the Apostles . Paul preached the gospel and established churches throughout the Roman Empire, Europe and Africa.

Many historians believe Christianity wouldn’t be as widespread without the work of Paul. In addition to preaching, Paul is thought to have written 13 of the 27 books in the New Testament.Christianity - Dogma, Definition & Beliefs | HISTORY

First known use of the phrase “Catholic Church”: The word “catholic” means “universal.” Today the word is widely used in a generic, etymological sense, but is most frequently thought of in relation to the Catholic Church, the headquarters of which are at the Vatican in Rome, Italy. According to a Catholic website (http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/ign.htm), the first known use of the phrase which is rendered into English as “Catholic Church” took place in 107 A.D.:

St. Ignatius of Antioch (35-107 A.D.), an Apostolic Father of the Church, and the Bishop of Antioch, wrote the following letter as he was being taken in chains to Rome to be martyred. It is believed that in this letter, the words Catholic Church, were used for the first time. See the New Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) ref 830, note 307.
East/West split in 1054 A.D. : 1054 marks the formalization of a longstanding split between two bodies of Christians known today as the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church (among other names). Obviously these two groups and their differences existed long before 1054.https://www.adherents.com/adh_dates.html

The history of Christianity concerns the history of the Christian religion and the Church, from Jesus and his Twelve Apostles and Seventy Disciples to contemporary times. Christianity is the monotheistic religion which considers itself based on the revelation of Jesus Christ. In many Christian denominations “The Church” is understood theologically as the institution founded by Jesus for the salvation of humankind. This understanding is sometimes called High Church. In contrast, Low Church denominations generally emphasize the personal relationship between a believer and Jesus Christ.

Christianity began in first century [Jerusalem] /Ethiopia), [Armenia] Assyria, [Iran], [India] and [China] Although it was originally persecuted, it would ultimately become the [state religion]of the Roman Empire (380). During the Age of Exploration, Christianity expanded throughout the world, becoming the world’s largest religion.[1]

Throughout its history, the religion has weathered schisms and theological disputes that have resulted in many distinct Churches. The two largest Churches are the [Roman Catholic Church]and the Eastern Orthodox Church, but the various other [Eastern Churches/Eastern_Christianity) (e.g., [Oriental Orthodoxy, [Protestant Churches Protestant) (e.g., Lutheranism) and others represent a large portion of the Christian community as well.History of Christianity - New World Encyclopedia

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And there you go with your broad brush again.

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All right imjimo, you say prove you wrong, well you prove you are right. Where is the proof that Jesus and his apostles started the Catholic Church. Where is the proof that St. Peter started the Catholic Church. Well the answer is there isn’t any. This is just something that Catholics want to believe.

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You are a large canvas.

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The first Christian church was a baptist church. John the Baptist was the founder.

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Ignatius apparently fought two groups of heretics: (1) Judaizers, who did not accept the authority of the New Testament and clung to such ■■■■■■ practices as observing the Sabbath, and (2) docetists (from the Greek dokein , “to seem”), who held that Christ had suffered and died only in appearance. Ignatius untiringly affirmed that the New Testament was the fulfillment of the Old Testament and insisted upon the reality of Christ’s human nature. For him, Christ’s Passion, death, and Resurrection were a vital guarantee of “life everlasting” in the risen Christ. Had Christ died only in appearance, Ignatius believed that his own suffering and his readiness to sacrifice his life for Christ would have no meaning.

Ignatius used, for the first time in Christian literature, the expression “catholic church,” meaning the whole church that is one and the same wherever there is a Christian congregation.https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Ignatius-of-Antioch

First known use of the phrase “Catholic Church”: The word “catholic” means “universal.” Today the word is widely used in a generic, etymological sense, but is most frequently thought of in relation to the Catholic Church, the headquarters of which are at the Vatican in Rome, Italy. According to a Catholic website (http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/ign.htm), the first known use of the phrase which is rendered into English as “Catholic Church” took place in 107 A.D.:

I posted my sources

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And you’re fibbing again. My earliest comment on the subject was that SOME Christians support the death penalty for homosexuality, which I then supported…YOU are the one accusing me of suggesting all Christianity supports it. Neither of which are true…:man_shrugging:

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There is none. Of course they did no such thing. It was co-opted, and with the help of Constantine who made the Catholic Church the official religion, declaring all those who judahize by worshipping on the Sabbath Day are anathema from Christ. The first day of the week was adopted, he ordered all shops closed on that day, he appointed Christians to high positions of public office, granted land to the church and built a string of basilicas across Rome.

The Catholic Church at various times throughout the past have acknowledged they have no authority for changing the Sabbath to Sunday.

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All of Christ’s students (disciples) continued to observe the sabbath and all the annual high (Holy) days, as well as the health laws, long after his death, all of which were in the scripture that Jesus taught from.

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Some Political Bullpen members support the death penalty for homosexuals. So do some airline pilots, some Taco Bell owners as well as some Muslims. What’s your point beyond criticizing a religion you are unfamiliar with and which seem to have enmity.

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Yeah, you made the point. SOME Muslims do. My original comment was a response to the assertion that it was systemic. SOME Christians do as well. It’s systemic in neither religion, but exists in both.

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Only one religion still carries out executions .

13 countries where being gay is legally punishable by death

Same-sex sexual activity is a crime in 70 countries. Some of them, including six nations that are members of the United Nations, impose the death penalty. Another five make such punishment technically possible, even though it is rarely enforced. In 26 other countries, the maximum penalty is prison with terms varying anywhere from a few years to life imprisonment.

In Yemen, the law states that unmarried gay men will be punished with 100 whip lashes or one year in prison, but married gay men face death by stoning. Gay women are to be imprisoned for up to three years.

In January 2019 a man in Iran was hanged after being found guilty of having sex with another man. Homosexuality was made a crime punishable by the death penalty in 1979 after the Islamic Revolution. In 2007, then-President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad infamously said during a visit to Columbia University: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country.”

Homosexuality has always been illegal in Mauritania, the 11th largest country in Africa by area. But it was not a capital crime. Offenders were sentenced to three years in prison until 1983, when an interpretation of Sharia law became the basis of the penal code. This made homosexuality a crime punishable by death. The method of execution is stoning.
Nigeria
In 2014, the then-president of Nigeria Goodluck Jonathan signed the Same Sex Marriage (Prohibition) Act. Not only did it ban gay marriage, but it also banned the registration of gay clubs, societies and other organizations supporting the LGBT community. Public displays of affection between gay people is also prohibited. Anyone found guilty of homosexuality can be put in prison for up to 14 years. While this law is applied across the entire country, 12 northern states have their own laws, punishing gay men and women with death by stoning.

Brunei to punish gay sex and adultery with death by stoning .
A new statement from the office of Brunei’s Prime Minister says the country has “always been practicing a dual legal system, one that is based on the Syariah (Shariah) Law and the other on Common Law.”

The two systems will run in parallel starting April 3, the statement said, and will “maintain peace and order and preserve religion, life, family and individuals regardless of gender, nationality, race and faith.”

“The Syariah Law, apart from criminalizing and deterring acts that are against the teachings of Islam, it also aims to educate, respect and protect the legitimate rights of all individuals, society or nationality of any faiths and race.”

Same-sex relations of any kind are illegal in Qatar and punishable by up to seven years in prison. Muslims in the country may face the death penalty, based on the interpretation of Sharia, if they are engaging in extramarital sex, regardless of whether the affair is between men, women, or a man and a woman.

Relations between people of the same sex — whether men or women — can be tried as capital crimes in Saudi Arabia. Terrorism crimes are also capital offenses in Saudi Arabia. The punishment can also be flogging, but that depends on the perceived seriousness of the wrongdoing. The sentence for first-time offenders is often lashing or some prison time, while those caught more than once can be executed.

Same-sex relationships are not recognized in Afghanistan. Gay men and women live in fear. The subject of homosexuality is a taboo. It’s almost never talked about and it is perceived as immoral, un-Islamic, and even as a disease. Honor killings, where relatives kill the gay man or woman to restore the family’s honor, are not unheard of. They can also be executed under local Sharia law. These laws are more likely to be enforced in Taliban, rural, and/or isolated communities.

Intercourse between people of the same sex is illegal in Somalia. Such acts can result in prison terms from three months to three years. The punishment for other gay activities, defined as “acts of lust,” is also imprisonment but between two months and two years. In 2012, a newly adopted provisional constitution made Somalia’s interpretation of Sharia law “the supreme law of the country,” making homosexuality a crime that can be punished by flogging or the death penalty.

Relationships between men are illegal in Sudan (the law is not clear about those between women.) Sodomy is prohibited and punishable by flogging and/or five years in prison. The punishment for a third conviction is death. Acts that are not sodomy but deemed indecent by authorities are punishable by 40 lashes and possible prison time for up to a year.

All sex outside of heterosexual marriage is illegal and those convicted can be imprisoned for up to a year. The Penal Code is not explicitly clear about homosexuality being a capital crime or not. The legal lingo can be interpreted as making all male homosexual intercourse a capital crime but it can also mean that it’s only for forced male homosexual intercourse. Consensual homosexual relations are punishable in several ways, including hanging. There is no record to date of consensual homosexual acts being punished by anything but jail terms of differing lengths and fines.

LGBT rights in Pakistan are a taboo topic. Homosexual acts are illegal. The country’s Penal Code states that “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” — which can mean homosexuality, even though it’s not explicitly mentioned — is punishable by a fine and/or imprisonment from two years to life.

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No, I am accusing you of doing exactly what you are doing … associating the belief that homosexuals should be put to death with Christianity. Yet you cannot point to a single current tenet of Christian belief other than one small reference to it from ancient doctrine to support your assertion. Even Fundamental Chritstians don’t profess that belief. They may believe homosexuality is a mortal sin, but they leave the retribution up to God.

Now stop this nonsense, it has gone on far too long.

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It exists in all demographics. So what is your point?

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And now you see why removing guns from law abiding citizens is a terrible idea, the criminals will have a field day over here, we have a drug problem, gang problem, youth running wild ( most 1st world countries have this problem) we have illegals here and the criminal element is a problem that most countries dont really have.

we treat mental illness poorly although we are getting better.

People in Europe dont face these problems, you know that radical Islamist and those on the lower economic scale are causing the problems but we have it coming from all sides

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Stop lying, I said that there are some Christians that support the death penalty for homosexuality. And that is a fact!

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But admit it, you are implying guilt by association as if one’s religion promotes homicide. You are lying.

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No, I’m pointing out the fallacy in the guys that broadbrush 1.5 million Muslims because a small minority of them support the death penalty for homosexuality. Clearly, turning it around has struck a raw nerve. :man_shrugging:

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Clearly you are ignorant of the doctrines of Islam and Christianity. Islam clearly states their acolytes are to kill all infidels.

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In the countries which Arabs conquered, the new Muslim dynasties didn’t wish the conquered to convert to Islam, because it would mean less tax income.
(Non-Muslims were more heavily taxed. There were always large Christian, ■■■■■■■ Hindu, etc., communities.)

Christian Armenians and Muslim Turks peacefully lived side by side for centuries, until the Young Turks (crypto-■■■■■ took over Turkey.

Only after the totally artificial creation of Israel in 1948, the Muslim-Christian relationship deteriorated world-wide.
Coincidence?