What Has Changed In America

It’s similar,one is Biblical, and I maybe wrong from the Quran. Either way it’s a strict interpretation of text.

Either way, it’s the work of the lying pen of the scribes.
(Jeremiah 8:8)

Old testament ■■■■■■ law not a Christian commandment !!!
“If a man has sex with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is abhorrent. They must be put to death; they are responsible for their own deaths.

No, just because they did so on some things that doesn’t mean they did so on everything. 'Tis simple set theory, the circle of instances that is a subset of a larger circle is not the larger circle.

Homosexual acts should always have been illegal. If that is hardly enforced but at least it protects us from things like poofters marriage then that’s fine … the Lord will deal with unrepentant sinners for the rest. Those they lead astray (as the transgender crowd is trying to do with as many kids as they can lay their hands on) are a compounding matter, but still one the Lord will deal with … forever.

As for what was the Law (civil, criminal, the whole kit kaboodle) to govern Israel’s affairs as a matter of the covenant, well, in at least one notorious incident had homosexuality not been tolerated, and the it attempted to protect certain sexual predators who were homosexuals too, there wouldn’t have been a civil war resulting in the near extermination of Benjamin.

Wow, what a topic be with out people bashing Trump when h has NOTHING to do with the topic.

Yes how convenient the way Christians treat their bible like a potluck.

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I voice my opinions here just like you do. You don’t have to read them if it offends your sensibilities. Otherwise it’s subjective that parts of the Bible are irrelevant to Christians.

That’s odd, Leviticus 20:13 doesn’t need any interpretation. Homosexuals “should be put to death WITHOUT FAIL”…:man_shrugging:

From the beginning of the Church it was not the civil authority. Homosexuality was rife among pagans and unlike with Islam, Christians are not taught to take it on themselves to do anything directly about those that they think are displeasing to the Lord.

Note that when Paul wrote of who could not enter the Kingdom he immediately followed it up with and such were some of you … things like this colored how the Church could even view homosexuals under their own civil authorities.

Yes, when civil powers might imagine people were without excuse and they held the sword (sometimes called the justice system) there were times when they put people to death for what actually is a fundamentally disordered existence, but even then you’ll find other communities under other Christian princes that did not.

No it doesn’t. They just think it does. Are you familiar with the term over here of “outside the beltway”? It means that outside of Washington DC, how people see things is not particularly the same as the way people inside DC think we see things. You probably have a similar term over there, because I am sure that phenomenon exists there.

Repeating it doesn’t make it a Christian tenet … or you knowledgeable.

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No part of the Bible is irrelevant. Reading it in context is important, not simply cherry-picking verses to suit your political activism.

Putting words in my mouth doesn’t make you knowledgeable.

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Lol, that is exactly my point with the pot luck approach. :man_shrugging:

Jesus founded what would become the Catholic church and his followers would follow his teachings in the new testament the reference to the old testament by writers of the new testament can’t be ignored .

That’s ridiculous, he brought the good news (gospel) to ■■■■ only. It would be 30 odd years after his death that his students, all ■■■■■ would receive instruction via a vision, that the gospel was meant for all humanity, gentile included. And Paul became the apostle to the gentiles, and the one who began traveling to Greece, Rome, etc and preaching it.

The Catholic Church is an imposter and changed most of the teachings received. The sabbath and Holy Days that Paul taught, the health laws, all abandoned.

In fact, the first council of nicea is when Constantine officially decreed Christianity the state church and adopted the first day of the week for worship. Many catholic writings acknowledge that they changed the sabbath to the first day of the week.

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Be that as it may the Jesus and apostles founded the Holy Roman Church !
The Roman Catholic Church traces its history to Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Over the course of centuries it developed a highly sophisticated theology and an elaborate organizational structure headed by the papacy, the oldest continuing absolute monarchy in the world.

The number of Roman Catholics in the world (nearly 1.1 billion) is greater than that of nearly all other religious traditions. There are more Roman Catholics than all other Christians combined and more Roman Catholics than all Buddhists or Hindus. Although there are more Muslims than Roman Catholics, the number of Roman Catholics is greater than that of the individual traditions of Shiʿi and Sunni Islam.

Sunday, as opposed to Saturday (which is still called “sabbath” in French, Russian, southern German, etc.), was a holy day in the Persian Mithra cult, very popular throughout the Roman Empire.

It doesn’t mean I’m not knowledgeable either. You on the other hand, sound like you have no in-depth knowledge of modern Christianity.

The idea that Jesus and his apostles founded the Catholic Church is absolutely false, there is no evidence of any kind that this happened. There is no evidence that St. Peter started the Catholic Church, that is just lies perpetrated by Catholic Priest, and they know it is a lie. Jesus gave specific instructions to his apostles to go to the lost tribes of the children of Israel, which went up into Europe, and go into all the world and preach to them.