Trump closing border with Mexico

There are people, Dave, who are not just waiting for life to happen to them but willing to make life happen.

There will tax incentives and if expensive, plenty of investors willing to invest. Don’t worry about it, Dave. I doubt you’ll be bereft of fresh produce at either your local farmer’s market or the grocery store. :wink:

Morel season is almost here, so I wont suffer. :wink:

No, but it does not surprise me.

Go back to the thread @asaratis started for you. You have been proven incorrect.

If you are an expert on economics, i will defer, otherwise, we are both talking out of our asses.

I don’t have to be an expert on economics to understand the basic tenants being discussed.

But, no offense intended, I do find it talking out of one’s ass to lament over Arizona or having to buck up and start producing again or find alternate trade partners if if means cutting away the leeches draining our country of jobs and treasure.

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Chum for the base.

He’s not closing the border. Or building the wall.

Yeah OK Nostradamus!

Ok, you will probably find this source even less substantial, but scroll down a ways and there are some actual experts that weigh in.

What does 25,000,000 illegals cost us ? How many extra teachers do we need ? How many hospitals have gone bankrupt because they are REQUIRED to treat illegals regardless of ability to pay ? How many American jobs go to illegals ? I thought you liberals cared about not exploiting cheap labor ? How many more anchor babies do you want to care for ? How many more murders and rapes does it take to stop this BS for YOU ??? :roll_eyes:

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:laughing:.

Don’t have to see into the future to figure this one out.

You have no skin in this game. Worry about your own affairs across the pound first before opining on ours!

You are citing Buzzfeed? Seriously? Look everyone Dave just jumped the shark!

I think I lost all respect for you! All too funny!

You can’t blame Trump for doing the right thing. BTW, do you have anything to say about Mexico’s role in forcing Trump’s hand?

Kind of reminds me of something I did when my son was about 3-4 years old.
He loved to get up after I’d gone to bed to get sugar from the sugar bowl. Evidence was everywhere. Spilled on the counter and the floor.

When I asked him if he’d been in the sugar bowl, he’d give me the wide eyed, “I don’t know who did it, mommy!”

So, I took the sugar bowl and put it up in the cabinets.

Sure as the sun comes up in the morning, he found it. Same evidence. Same questions, same answers.

So, one day I replaced the sugar with salt.

Lo and behold. No more sugar bowl raids.

There is a lesson here. Do you see it?

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Murders and rapes is a bit far. It’s not any higher than it is in the standard population. That is a blatant fear tactic pandered by the Trump campaign.
Don’t misinterpret me, I’m sure there are extra costs due to illegal immigrants, but you can’t deny the work they put into our economy either. Most of them come here to work. They are farm laborers, roofers, and concrete workers, to name a few things.

I see your childish comparison of a real issue. It’s a cute story, but I dont really see the correlation

Murders and rapes. Not only of American citizens but of the illegals and their children as well. Anyone with a heart would encourage these people to fight for their own country, for their future and the futures of their children.

America is doing these people no favors. They are being exploited by the wealthy for cheap labor, by the Democrats for votes and cheap labor and by their own countries to send money back to support families. The sideline business of human trafficking, sex slaves, etc. isn’t something anyone should pay mind to.

The whole thing is disgusting on every moral level I can think of.


The 23 percent criminal traffic offenders figure is only part of the overall picture. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, another 23 percent, more than 43,000 illegal aliens, were convicted of drug offenses. The violent crime category of assault, robbery, sexual assault, and family offenses comes to 12 percent. The non-violent crime grouping of larceny, fraud, and burglary totaled seven percent, and on the list goes — equaling 100 percent of illegal aliens who have been through the criminal justice system and inflicted thousands to millions in cost per alien on the system, for issues having nothing to do with their illegal entry into the country.[5]

https://truthfeednews.com/breaking-illegal-rapes-9-yr-old-in-sanctuary-city/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/14670/two-illegal-immigrants-charged-raping-14-y-o-girl-james-barrett

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/illegal_aliens_murder_at_a_much_higher_rate_than_us_citizens_do.html

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Here we go with the murderers and rapists again. I call bs on that without a good source.
Do you understand that these are hard-working people, like you and me, that come here to work, for the most part?
Americans dont want many of the jobs immigrants do.
And i doubt any hospital has gone bankrupt because of immigrants. Sources please.