The Rabbit Hole

Have you seen any of them put into a position where they have to answer questions like that or just make stump speeches?

There’s really no such thing as “international law.” Sometimes sovereign nations sign treaties that they subsequently incorporate into their own national laws. Other times they voluntarily agree to abide by certain international agreements and practices for a variety of reasons. In any event nations voluntarily abide by international agreements but these agreements never supersede national laws.
Unfortunately we signed up to the Lisbon treaty so that is incorporated into our law - I think

A boat owned by the Rothschilds - go figure!

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Prorogation was motivated by an improper purpose.

I understand completely the conflict between those who want to Brexit and those who don’t. But by unanimous vote, the UK Supreme Court ruled that Johnson’s prorogation was unlawful…:man_shrugging:

This conversation began with Jen telling me that International Law supersedes UK Law…:man_shrugging:

“Beyond reasonable doubt?” No, just conjecture on your part and that of Remainers.

Presumably you’re suggesting that the whole of your Supreme Court are “remainers”…

Not illegal. Boris has broken no law.

Not presuming, I am saying they are, yes.

Again, the UK Supreme Court unanimously ruled it “unlawful”…

Ok, that’s your opinion…

Yes they did. What does that mean exactly? That they didn’t agree with it? They made a political statement, which is not their job to do. Their job is to uphold the law. There is no law that Boris has broken. End of.

End of what? Is your Supreme Court the final word like the American Supreme Court is?

I have no idea about your courts. The ECHR is higher and cases can be taken there. “End of” meaning Boris has broken no law. The courts are there to decide if a law has been broken or not, not make a political stand.

Evidenced.

But I didn’t ask you about our courts, I told you about it, it’s truly Supreme, it has the last word. My question to you was/is…Is your Supreme Court the final word similarly???

un¡law¡ful

adjective

  1. not conforming to, permitted by, or recognized by law or rules.

I added a couple of definitions to the brexit thread earlier.

Illegal means that it is forbidden by a law that has been passed.
Unlawful means that it is not authorised by law because no such law has been passed.

another way of expressing:
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal.

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Then why not say what Boris did was illegal? It is black and white. He either broke the law or he didn’t.

Seems like that would be a question for YOUR Supreme Court, not an observer from across the pond. I’d still like to know if your Supreme Court will release a brief on the ruling???