The Rabbit Hole

I get most of my exercise acting as pall bearer for my friends who exercise. :innocent:

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I have seen a couple of programmes in the last two years that have comfirmed the burning of calories after exercise. Especially when high intensity activities are performed. The technology is now able to confirm the suspicion we have had for years and yet I still hear jo public trying to justify why they won’t do Hi intensity work outs in place of their magic wonder pilates, or because they get the same benefits from yoga :rofl:

I am still a fan of your HIIT Jen.
This is exactly what we always did in football training and that was when I was at my most fit.

You said you hadn’t trained for a while, I bet you knew you had done 6 miles with a HR touching 190.
I would have needed a walking interval if I attempted that for to long or perhaps an ambulance with an oxygen tent :rofl::rofl:

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I hope this is not true BTW…

No it’s not true - he’s got no friends and he couldn’t lift his arse let alone a coffin.

There is an urban legend of sorts that says the number of heartbeats in the entire life is predetermined at birth. The harder you exercise in life, the shorter you are cutting your life span.

Of course it’s not true but there seems to be a grain of truth.
Moderate exercise is beneficial. (Some joggers I see have the facial expression of agony)

Since humans are animals, it’s worthwhile to look at the behavior of other animals.
Animals have the typical built-in “fight or flight” reaction when faced with a predator or some individual that threatens you. You run as fast as you can when your life is at risk or face the risk of getting killed and eaten.

I hope even more than this is not true :blush:

It’s only because I hadn’t been doing much over the summer that I could reach a high HR. When you’re more in shape, it gets more difficult, but that doesn’t mean you’re not working as hard.

I have suspected the usefulness of high intensity for years! I used to be on Runner’s World forum and I always argued in favour of intensity, but I had so many so called experts shoot me down, told me I was being dangerous and that it was the work done that made the difference, not the effort it took. Of course, in those days, I couldn’t prove anything so I just shut up. Looking back, they were the virtue signalling, Marxist gestapos of sport!

People have been so brainwashed into believing that and I see it everywhere. Being lazy is fine! In the gym, there were lard arses who would always be on the bikes pedalling slowly or walking on the treadmills, thinking they were making a difference. I guess the litre of Lucozade doesn’t help. Of course, I would see them doing the same for months and they never looked any different. I suppose it’s better than feeding their faces with pizza, though they probably did that too, as a treat for going to the gym.

No one has mentioned the feel good buzz that you get from intense exercise, a perfectly healthy fix! You never see any depressed runners. Intense exercise also really sharpens everything. If you’ve been there, you will know exactly what I mean. :wink:

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And couldn’t resist this…

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When I used to run I would mostly just do two miles:

First quarter: warm up, get in rhythm.

To three quarters, pick up the pace, get the breathing down pat and get in the zone.

Last quarter mile, give it ALL I’ve got. That last quarter mile, all you’ve got changes with how in shape you are. No need to pound for miles and miles.

Although I will say doing that? I could run for 10 (and did) without much of an issue.

What surprised the hell out of me was one day I decided to go “running” in a pool. Within 5 minutes I was like, “holy moley… I don’t think I can make one more minute!” A great work out without the impact.

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Gotta say, you know what Jen? At least they are making the effort. They should be commended and supported for it.

I remember this one lady in my neighborhood. She was REALLY big. She started walking every day. Day in day out. I thought for sure she’d quit. But nope. She didn’t.

As the months wore on, you could see the changes. Now? I see her very toned up and running everyday which is after a couple of years on her part. Can’t say I think it is a good idea to start running at middle age but that is just me.

IMO, the lady deserves and has earned my respect. People making the effort no matter how out of shape or whatever need all of the support and encouragement they can get.

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I do hope you sent this to Boris!

It has been a while since I drove a kart, but I used to go and drive competitively in open events at the local track. Let me explain; a race lasted an hour, every lap was a “quali” lap, he who did not a) master the art, and b) drive like his life depended on it … finished last-ish.

During the few years I was doing that I learned to start each race by downing 500ml of water (yes, it was Buxton or similar, out of a plastic bottle). This was necessary because one would easily lose that amount during the race, and if you didn’t pre-load with water the last third of the race was torture, and embarrassing because at the end one was unable to get out of the kart without assistance.

Then I discovered that I had become quite fit … that was an epiphany.

Well … the current thinking is that getting somebody out and walking is better than having them sit at home and watch someone else walking.

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You know Oscar Meier company (American sausage corporation) in their ads featured a geezer over 90 who age hot dog every day.
There is a cigarette brand in Taiwan called “長寿” meaning “Long Life” with drawings of taoist sages supposedly hundreds of years old.

I’m for laziness. Look at all these beautiful cats in Africa, be it lions or cheetahs. What do they do if they are not hunting?

Talking of cheetahs, the fastest animal on the ground, their success rate in hunting is less than 50%.

Does that mean their prey animals can run faster?
Not necessarily. They can make sharp turns in addition to running fast, until the cheetah figures out the energy spent in the chase isn’t worth.

Very little of what Magog ever says is true. :rofl:

No they were not. Being in a gym and sat on a machine does not automatically equate to making the effort. They were basically lying to themselves. What I was also trying to say earlier was that results are commensurate with effort. Lying to themselves meant 1. they would not lose weight / get fitter and 2. they would probably “treat” themselves afterwards, so put on even more weight.

I don’t have much time for people who don’t put in effort. I was brought up in a different era to today where we worked hard to get results, not just be handed them on a plate. Fortunately my kids are in that sort of environment too and a lot more besides.

You give it your best. Often, that is not good enough, so you push the limits and give it more. Never give up. You can squeeze out more. That is true in sport and in life. Not so true in a Marxist utopia, where everyone is all the same, well, the underclass anyway.

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Have you heard of skinny fat? As we age, we naturally lose muscle mass and that gets replaced with fat. You may weigh the same and sort of look similar in clothes. Visceral fat is particularly dangerous. Fat produces shit loads of hormones (oestrogen for one) and it makes you prone to so much. So you see, you don’t have to be fat to suffer from fat related illnesses, just have a relatively high amount of fat i.e. little muscle.

Edit: it gets worse. In men it is exercise or resistance work which causes the production of testosterone. Being a lazy lard arse means you won’t have much testosterone, which in turn means little muscle and the fat means more oestrogen. So you become a fat old woman with moobs.

I am pleased on this occasion @Magog was joking :+1:

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Reminds me of skiing. On the last trip there was a little walk uphill to the ski school. It would be nothing at all at sea level in normal clothes but it was 2150m altitude, deep snow, in ski boots weighing about 3kg, carrying skis and poles, and the childrens’ skis and poles. The temperature would be about -10 but we would be in a sweat and be taking clothes off. Then there were loads of flat bits that you don’t see on the videos, which called for a lot of arm action (my arms really ached!) and attempts at cross country skiing in downhill skis.

All that was just a pain, but then I found out I was quite fit afterwards!

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Unfortunately Jen this is all too often true. It is better that people who don’t train hard in the gym don’t go there because it is an environment where there are serious trainers and the lazy ones see the effort being put in by the serious trainers and somehow believe they have put in similar effort. They then overeat throughout the week to go back to the gym and do very little.
There are various types of exercise regimes these days so choosing wisely is important.
My parents are in their seventies and just started pilates which they are getting quite a bit of benefit from and certainly walking briskly can give huge benefits as Stephen Fry discovered when he lost about 4 stone. But as you said it still requires that the activity is done with the right approach. Chatting about last night’s dancing competition watched on TV doesn’t improve fitness :rofl::rofl:

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