The Rabbit Hole

Did you take it to a lab? They might not be telling you the truth.
I’ve had a Berkfeld water filter for 20 years now with additional fluoride filters.
Tastes like spring water.

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What’s the bottle? Is it glass or plastic? Plastic leaches hormone like chemicals into the water and bottled water would be in contact with the plastic for a long time. Plastic bottles give you moobs. :wink:

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There is a national database of how much fluoride each county adds to its water supply. I have verified it with the database and from the supplier website. I don’t believe they would lie about that.

Water filters would only remove 50-60% of fluoride. Reverse osmosis will remove 95%. We have a RO filter for the fish tank. It is a pretty inefficient process. As awful lot of water is needed to be forced under pressure to produce just a small bit of RO water.

“Berkey fluoride water filter allows you to make this decision about your health for yourself by reducing the amount of fluoride in your water by up to 95%.”

Not 50-60%

Best way to remove chemicals is distillation.
Some claim distilled water is devoid of minerals.

Sure, if you want minerals, get them from food!

Minerals in water is irrelevant. The body can only absorb the organic compound of the mineral anyway.

“Up to 95%” Not guaranteed then, just up to - can mean anything. No filter can match reverse osmosis… or distillation, but that is an awful lot of palaver.

Beliefs and facts are two different things. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

ps. I expect a witty comeback. :stopwatch:

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That’s the problem.
Mineral water companies claim or hint in their ads that minerals in water are good for health.

(Although I admit, coffee brewed with mineral water tastes better than with distilled water. Whiskey drinkers will probably tell you the same.)

Nah, can’t do witty especially this early…

Imagine the lawsuit if they were found to be lying?! There is always some pedantic old git who would take a sample to a lab to verify and I trust pedantic old gits. I hang out with them. :grin:

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I don’t think they claim, but they certainly hint and lead. It’s all marketing. Minerals in water do taste very nice, but that doesn’t mean they are of benefit to you. My bigger concern is the plastic bottle. Most plastic bottles leach BPA which mimics oestrogen and bottled water can be in bottles for years before it is used. Even if they claim the plastic does not contain BPA, the other plastics leach oestrogen like chemicals too. Notice the difference when you drink from a glass bottle? That is in the absence of those gender bending chemicals.

Had a really hectic couple of weeks and no time for RABBIT HOLE …ing.

Just a quick hello and no surprises with the latest round of BREXIT theatre. Nothing will ever be sorted without a proper deep clean !!

Take Care Folks.

My latest trading anthem…

https://youtu.be/s6VaeFCxta8

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Jen … that is just not true. If that were true you would not be worried by added Sodium Fluoride in water. The typical minerals which improve taste are things like Calcium Carbonate (chalk) and Magnesium Carbonate, and of course Sodium salts which get everywhere. Also in the UK we benefit from endemic Iodides which benefit the operation of the Thyroid gland, and which have to be added to table salt in countries such as Germany because they are too far from the sea to parasitically acquire same.

Yes, it is true.

ORGANIC MINERALS VS. INORGANIC MINERALS
There are two types of minerals, organic and inorganic. Human physiology has a biological affinity for organic minerals. Most organic minerals for our body functions come from dietary plant foods. A growing plant converts the inorganic minerals from the soils to a useful organic mineral. When an organic mineral (from a plant food) enters the stomach it must attach itself to a specific protein-molecule (chelation) in order to be absorbed, then it gains access to the tissue sites where it is needed. Once a plant mineral is divested within the body, it is utilized as a coenzyme for composing body fluids, forming blood and bone cells, and the maintaining of healthy nerve transmission. (Balch and Balch 1990) Without a healthy organic mineral balance inside and outside the cells of muscle, blood, and bone substructures, the body will began to spasm, twitch and cramp, eventually deteriorating to a full rigor complex or complete failure or both.

INORGANIC MINERALS FROM TAPWATER ARE BAD NEWS
Tap water presents a variety of inorganic minerals which our body has difficulty absorbing. Their presence is suspect in a wide array of degenerative diseases, such as hardening of the arteries, arthritis, kidney stones, gall stones, glaucoma, cataracts, hearing loss, emphysema, diabetes, and obesity. What minerals are available, especially in hard tapwater, are poorly absorbed, or rejected by cellular tissue sites, and, if not evacuated, their presence may cause arterial obstruction, and internal damage. (Dennison 1993, Muehling 1994, Banik 1989)

https://www.hammernutrition.com/knowledge/endurance-library/distilled-water-enhances-mineral-absorption/

  1. Minerals are inorganic as they exist naturally in the soil and water.
  2. Minerals are organic as they exist in plants and animals.
  3. Only plants can transform inorganic minerals into organic minerals.
  4. Animals must eat plants or plant-eating animals to obtain their organic minerals.
  5. Inorganic minerals are useless and injurious to the animal organism.

http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/minerals/organic-and-inorganic-minerals.html

Most of the minerals that are in tap water are not assimilable by the body. Minerals must be in an organic form (processed through living plants) in order to be usable by the body.

Mineral waters vs. pure waters
It is believed that mineral waters help furnish mineral elements for body metabolism. But there is scientific proof to suggest that many of these minerals are in an inorganic (dead) form While they may enter the circulation, they cannot be used in the physiological process of building the human cell. These inorganic minerals only interfere with the delicate and complex biology of the body. They may also overwork the kidneys.
For example, it would be biologically impossible to nourish the body with iron by taking “iron filings” or any other form of inorganic iron. The best way to nourish the body with iron is through fresh and, preferably, raw fruits and vegetables.
With this in mind, we can see that mineral water may giving “dead” or “inorganic” minerals to the body which cannot be properly assimilated.

INORGANIC VS. ORGANIC MINERALS
Now, let me give you a short lesson in chemistry. There are two kinds of chemicals, inorganic and organic. The inorganic chemicals like chlorine, alum and sodium fluoride are inert, which means that they cannot be absorbed into the living tissues of the body.

https://www.uspw.net/minerals-in-water.html

Do you need any more evidence?

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So why is the NHS recommended treatment for anaemia the administration of ferrous sulphate in tablet form?

The absorption rate of iron sulphate is very low. Iron sulphate tablets are usually 200mg to be take 3 times a day for anaemia, that is 600mg a day! The absorption rate of iron from food (red meat, liver) is a lot, lot higher. You would have to eat an unrealistic amount of meat daily to match the actual iron absorbed from the tablets. Although the rate is low, the actual is high, due to the sheer quantity.

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Great! Big Whopper please, easy on the sauce. :yum:

Ah, the thing is, men very rarely get anaemia. Pregnant women are very prone (baby sucks out all the iron) and women get periods. Then any heavy bleeding and more iron goes. The normal haemoglobin level for men is 13.5 to 17.5 g/dl and 12.5 to 15.5 g/dl for women - all because of periods. It is bad news for women if they’re into endurance sports, but better otherwise. It isn’t good to have “thick” blood. So men should give blood and eat lots of garlic.

Reminds me of Paula Radcliffe. Her marathon record still stands today and no other woman has come near it. Not being funny, but she isn’t exactly the right colour for running! She never tested positive for drugs, but they found an anomaly with her blood, which they couldn’t figure out. I reckon she was having blood transfusions from men (maybe her husband?)

This is the major cause of anemia.


Remedy? Wormwood. No drugs.

I have made an interesting discovery lately. Not sure if any of you couch potatoes are really interested, maybe @robgsxr :grin: Recently I did a 6 miler through pretty tough terrain. My average HR was 176, max 189, in other words, I busted my gut. Now I wear a Garmin watch which gives me every conceivable metric and calculation I may care about. It knows my RHR and max HR so it uses that to figure out how hard I work. It told me I used up 500 or so calories for the actual run. On my usual sedentary day I would use up about 1600 calories. On that day, I used up 2600. So I burnt around another 500 by not doing much. My HR stayed higher than normal resting for a number of hours.

I have run the same route many times, but not always pushed myself so hard. I burnt fewer calories and fewer afterwards. I have walked that distance and used up very few calories comparatively and burnt no more afterwards.

Conclusion: the old mantra of “no pain, no gain” holds true. When did we start to think otherwise? Around the time that obesity and leftie brain rot took hold.

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