Much better to live a less than satisfactory life if change for the be better means a bit of pain, hmm?
Even if you believe it will come to nothing, at least people can go to their graves proud of themselves; holding their heads high that they did something positive for the freedom of their Country and fellow Countrymen.
And donāt forget that most Brits are masochistic at heart. We love it when our backs are against the wall.
I spend about 2 months a year in France, over several trips. I go to Spain also. I see first hand what it is like for people due to EU policies. I see how EU policies affect the UK. Basically we are fleeced to subsidise the French and others. I donāt have time now to go into detail, but what I have to tell is truly shocking. The only people benefiting from a federal Europe are the globalists. I can prove it many times over.
Globalists are really the people who have no national identity. Parasites, you might call them.
Itā the Babylonian banking system that permits their existence.
(Diabolical debt-based, interest-bearing banking fraud.)
Have you heard of āJosephās pennyā?
Itās a way of explaining what compound interests do. A metaphor often used by German researchers.
Joseph was the father of Jesus, and suppose he just saved a penny at the time of his sonās birth, how much money will it be worth today?
Some say a few million dollars, but itās not even close.
A penny two thousand years ago (under the compound interest system) is worth today pure gold hundreds of times the size of this planet.
Iām not big on nationalism, but certain cultural things become part of you since childhood.
So the logistics go smoothly and the unpleasantries are only for those who oppose Brexit to begin with???
What about those who oppose Brexit? They lost, remember?
Correct. Jen, Iām seeking information, not criticizing your position. Iām wanting to know what a no deal Brexit looks like, especially at home.
Heaven for America Magog???
The EU is only a small part of the world stage. We have the rest of the world with whom to do deals, free from the shackles of EU protectionism. There is also the Commonwealth with whom we could reforge ties. That has been largely forgotten because of the EU.
So who loses in a no deal scenario? Clue, itās not us.
I get that, but might there not be unnecessary hardships if those ādealsā arenāt in place at the time of Brexit. Iām not promoting continued UK involvement with the EU Jen, nor am I being critical of your interest in leaving it, I donāt live in the UK, obviously, and have no dog in the hunt, so Iām fairly indifferent to it, save itās effect on US markets if itās done come heāll or high water, do or die fashion, as opposed to a mitigated and orderly fashion.
Maybe it ends up having no negative effect for us over here, regardless of how itās executed. 
heaven for home - my home - UK
Probly be good for US too
I did read somewhere that we might have to relax some of our regs in Pharma and ag to get a deal with US that should be good for US but maybe not so good for UK
The UK has a special relationship with the āCommonwealthā and doesnāt really require the EU as a reliable trade partner.
I wonder if the UK or any other country outside the EU can trade with Germany and forget the rest.
Yeah, thatās what remains unclear to me.
Well, that makes sense. I donāt think that the UK should do anything that harms the US.
I donāt think it will have much economic effect on you. I am worried about food standards though. There are a number of substances banned under the EU which you allow in the US and I wouldnāt want that to change after we have left. From what I understand, an exporting country has to abide by the rules and food standards of the importing country. We will take on all the current EU laws and unpick them one by one. I hope food standards donāt get unpicked. If the EU was only about food standards, I would vote remain.
The EU are in a lose lose situation. They cannot be seen to offer us a favourable deal in case any of the other member states start getting ideas about leaving too. If we leave with no deal, they are truly screwed, particularly Germany. They can slap tariffs on our goods but we export bugger all. We slap the same tariffs on their goods, namely German cars and that is them down the toilet as we are their second biggest market, only a tad behind the US, but our population is 1/6th that of the US. Germany is already hitting recession now and it hasnāt started. They are doomed. Germany is also facing a lot of pressure from the other member states. Things will get a lot worse yet for all of them without our contribution. To put it bluntly, we pay for them.
Merkel must go, if Germany wants to survive.
Itās not just the economy.
Ban on GMO āfoodsā is a good thing, the frankenfoods by evil Monsanto (or whatever its name is now) which are widespread in the US
Yes, you and I bothā¦
Ok, Iāve got all thatā¦
