The Rabbit Hole

I don’t defend the 6 million number…but I have no doubt that millions were murdered. I do laugh at the denial of the use of gas and the ridiculous (to me) regarding aerial photos showing no evidence of such to be proof that it didn’t happen.

Whether the Red Cross found 52,000 bodies, 520,000 bodies or 0 bodies makes no difference to me. The photos of the bodies constitute undeniable proof that too many deaths occurred.

Hitler’s own statements regarding his hatred of ■■■■■ his determination to rid Germany of all ■■■■ by extermination and his subsequent rise to the position of being able to command such be done supports the argument that mass murder of ■■■■ did occur.

Just how big the mass murder was is not so important as the fact that it did happen.

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Surely you jest. You say this as if the Germans would have piled up and saved all the ashes of bodies in some form as to make them recognizable as evidence of a burned body. Once scattered or sent downstream, they are not traceable to a source.

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Will the Brexit vote today be televised?

Gilad Atzmon (Israeli)
“Haaretz reveals today that Canary Mission a Hasbara defamation outlet…”

“… why do self-identified ■■■■■■ activists use these ugly tactics? Why do they insist upon smearing and terrorising instead of engaging in a proper scholarly and/or political debate? …People who are convinced of their own exceptional nature often lack an understanding of the ‘other.’ This deficiency may well interfere with the ability to evolve a code of universal ethics.”

https://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2018/10/4/smear-and-shekels

So Magog’s claim about Hasbara is a fact as Haaretz, a major publication in Israel, revealed. Or will some say an opinion?

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Not all were incinerated and you are assuming that the ash remained on site

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It’s assuming that every body that was not found relatively intact, was cremated. Which would’ve been impossible to achieve during the length of the war. A modern day crematorium takes 2-3 hours to incinerate one body. So if it’s an average of 2.5 hours per body, for roughly 5,720,000 people, it would take 14,300,000 hours to cremate their remains in modern-day high-tech crematoriums. One modern day one would take over 1630 years to do all of that.

But apparently Nazi cremation technology back then is still ahead of the curve. It’s reported that they could burn 3 corpses at a time in an hour and a half.

Yes of course but was 6 mil a significant number to get the land of Israel?

I believe @devauxt has previously posted testimony of their incinerator capabilities beyond your numbers. Perhaps it was in another thread. I defer to him on that issue.

Probably but will be boring as hell. 7pm tonight GMT.

Not being versed on the justification for establishing the state of Israel, I cannot address this point.

Does the parliament go through speeches and pleas for votes prior to actually voting… like our Congress does?

If a glutton for punishment living in the US wanted to watch the circus, where would he tune in?

…because the Germans didn’t burn or bury the bodies?

…because the Germans didn’t attempt to cover up what they were doing?

…because the Germans were going to be honest about the number of ■■■■ killed?

This particular list has been debunked, there is even a wiki section about it.

‘Anzahl’ does not mean ‘total deaths’ in English, it means number, the incorrect translation was added later.

It’s registered deaths, the Nazis were the gatekeepers to the records, kinda important.

The Red Cross reports the Nazi’s destroyed records.

The Red Cross released a statement debunking any numbers that purport to be the total death count from the Red Cross.

Reference for some of those statements I made - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0031322X.1978.9969431

Thanks Jen, but I’m used to it - seems Americans like to dish it out but are pussies when it comes back at them

So typical of a yank - Free speech is ok as long as you agree with what is being said.

I’m British, if you had paid any attention to anything I said on forexfactory you would know that.

Free speech does not cover the ability to say what you want on someone else’s property, website. Forexfactory was a privately owned for profit organisation, and I would have banned you far sooner.

Free speech is that government cannot restrict private individuals, in their private capacity, to say and write what they want.

Learn the difference?

And I thought I was alone - LOL

…an errant assumption. It is likely that there are mass burial sites that have not been discovered. There is no reason to rest assured that all mass graves would be within camp boundaries. Bodies can be easily transported to remote areas, buried and forgotten.

Compiled my own figures, I posted these on forexfactory in 2017, unfortunately I didn’t list sources:

Estimate 2 - deaths per camp:
Dachau 28,000
Sachsenhausen 50,000
Buchenwald 56,000
Neuengamme 50,000
Flossenburg 30,000
Mathausen 95,000
Ravensbruck 30,000
Stutthof 60,000
Auschwitz–Birkenau 1,100,000
Bergen-Belsen 50,000
Gross-Rosen 40,000
Chelmno 15,200
Lublin-MajDanek 130,000
Natzweiler-Struthof 17,000
Treblinka 925,000
Bełżec 600,000
Sobibór 250,000
Majdanek 80,000
Maly Trostinets 65,000
Sajmište 23,000
Total dead : 3,694,200

That’s not all the camps.

With another 2 million reportedly killed in Ghettos and behind German lines. That brings the total to 5 million plus.

I learned it was roughly 6 million. I’ve seen nothing that makes me doubt that is roughly correct.

Despite what the Crazy person posts.

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You will never be alone. There will always be someone foolish enough to agree with you.

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Nope its the standard MO of Hasbara trolls when they want to shut someone down