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He creates issues everywhere he goes. MODs on forexfactory were right to ban him. I am frequently the target of ‘abuse’ from liberals and Remainers on other forums, and I’ve never once claimed I’ve been bullied. He needs to get a thicker skin if he is complaining to you behind the scenes.

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Magog has never once complained to me.

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Don’t get me wrong, I was never bullied. I was just different and others, I guess were wary of me. I went from London to home counties which says a lot, especially in those days.

I for one am grateful to see both sides presented. What constitutes evidence? Heresay of others? Photos? Remember, not everything is always as it looks. None of us were there. Obviously there are truth and lies and I would like to see all sides to make my mind up for myself. You often present the other side, for balance purposes. Let that apply to the Holocaust too.

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It’s not @magog that creates issues everywhere he goes, it’s the topic IMO.
It is possibly the most emotive subject on the net and countries making it illegal to be questioned only drives more and more people on to keep digging. It is that digging which has caused multiple retractions from the once accepted narrative. Of course they could have just stated the truth in the first instance and none of this would likely never have but this kind of thing will likely go on to the end of time.

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I’m happy to listen to opinions but I am not forced to believe them, and certainly not without hard evidence from a reliable source. So when I think someone has no evidence to support their assertions, I challenge them on it. Unsubstantiated opinions are not evidence and never will be. I tend to get involved in subjects that I have researched and know something about. Magog just regurgitates others opinions

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I think Magog is an issue, but what you’re talking about is def an issue also.

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I didn’t say that you were. I referring to another poster.

I am not upset. What others think of others does not upset me. I merely point out that it is an insult to Eisenhower to dismiss the photographic evidence that the holocaust occurred.

You have paraphrased your original statement. It was not originally that clearly put and seemed more broadly intended to apply to all who’ve served…regardless of their participation in this rabbit hole or on this site.

Watch and LISTEN TO this entire video to the very end…then get back to me.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?297082-1/general-eisenhower-documentation-holocaust

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Thank you. Like I said, I want to see both sides.

…and that has what to do with Eisenhower and the holocaust? I do agree with your sentiments regarding sending soldiers to unnecessary wars. My comment regarding the insulting nature of the other poster has nothing to do with the causes of wars…justified or not.

Somehow this particular topic has become convoluted. That often occurs in The Rabbit Hole…and elsewhere on social media.

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Sorry … not trying to usurp your position xx

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Warwick SU defends the removal of PPL Soc’s Facebook poll asking whether or not gender is binary :man_facepalming:

Warwick University - an education without education

In response, Warwick SU have made an official statement defending the removal of the poll, calling the actions of PPL Society “offensive and highly inappropriate.”

They said: “Some issues are simply not up for debate, including the identity, existence and lives of our Trans students.”

https://thetab.com/uk/warwick/2018/12/16/warwick-su-defends-the-removal-ppl-socs-facebook-poll-asking-whether-or-not-gender-is-binary-32909

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The only thing you learn on social media is how poor are the thinking and reasoning skills of the proletariat.

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That lesson is generously available on social media but is not the only show in town.

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Some camps were concentration/labour camps, others were concentration/labour and death camps. Auschwitz–Birkenau was both a labour camp, and a death camp. ■■■■ went to these camps in their millions where they were initially interned, worked to death and finally exterminated. Contrast that with the American internment of the Japanese - it’s night and day.

Call the camps what you want, it’s the number of dead and the intention to exterminate that matters.

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Ok I accept that is your opinion but questioning what those images represent is not disrespectful and they can’t be evidence of a holocaust, as horrifying as the images were they showed some people barely alive, naked corpses etc but a photograph can’t be evidence of cause of death.

Whatever, there were quite a few posts over concerning respect and I gave my opinion on that

Ok watched and listened. He is a very good speaker and as he suggests @27:30 “the sheer power of the visual image and particularly as evidence in court”, agree it is extremely powerful but it doesn’t prove cause of death and yet I believe the images have been used as such evidence. I will have to research if a coroner substantiated such evidence.

I think what he said at around 28:20 is interesting, in stating “traditionally we prove things in court in two ways, eye witness testimony & documentary records, both have their limitations, especially in the context of such horrors, therefore the prosecution showed films built in very very significant respects on the films that were made at General Eisenhower’s behest. The result was it took the evidence in the Nuremberg Trials, the main trial in particular to a whole new level, the impact was stunning, the impact was electrifying, the audience were shocked, the audience broke down, some of them, some of them cried, some of them feinted, this was the first time that the world had seen film of the atrocities committed in Nazi concentration camps…” .

Is he saying because of very little evidence we have to show this very powerful imagery and pass it off as evidence ?

Around 50 mins he talks of Eisenhower having uncanny accuracy in foreseeing an era of Holocaust denial.
I think Alex posted a vid which showed many newspaper reports of Holocaust and 6 million ■■■■ were going to die years and years before the event ? Could that have been why he might suspect people won’t believe ?

I don’t normally do the whole LOL thing but the questions were useless and one of them was a fan who follows the guy everywhere.

To be clear and I have stated this before following an exchange with Verv. I am not a blanket Holocaust denier but I do find many of the points raised in opposition to the official narrative to be plausible. I don’t doubt there were horrors but that was the case for all concerned, on all sides but one group have manged to make a very lucrative industry from it and that raises an my eyebrow.

Detectives sometimes dig for years based on hunches etc but they aren’t classed as cranks.

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So why did the Red Cross only find about 52,000 dead at the infamous Auschwitz camp after they finished inspecting it?
RedCrossTotals

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What evidence remains after you incinerate a body?

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An average of about 5 pounds of ashes per person. Subtracting the total deaths that the Red Cross had confirmed, there should have been over 28 million pounds of evidence. That’s assuming that every person of the 6 million that were claimed to be killed whose bodies weren’t discovered, were cremated.

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