I agree with much of what you have said Didge but for certain in the case of BOJO he had a mandate and ample opportunity, he made his choice as have all before him. We had legal opportunity which I have addressed just after the 2016 Brexit vote to leave the EU almost instantly. Right there the writing was on the wall for the theatrics which have happened and I knew it back then. Cameron, May, Bojo were all free to act.
Anyway I have just noticed we are not in the RH where we can zoom off on tangents from the thread title, which is a shame as essentially most of the subjects covered are all related really.
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That’s just nonsense. A plant, by who or what? That kind of conspiratorial talk just leaves the farm…
And btw, the American repudiation of Trump goes far far beyond what you minimize as “crass talk”…
Speaking for myself, there is no longer any attraction to either one of the two major parties…
I’ve long been a proponent of a viable third party…
But historically, here’s what the Democratic Party delivered to Americans…
Federal Farm Loan Act of 1916
President Thomas Woodrow Wilson
Women’s Right to Vote – 1919
President Thomas Woodrow Wilson
The Social Security Act of 1935
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Expanded by Presidents
Harry S. Truman – 1950
Lyndon B. Johnson – 1965
Rural Electrification Act – 1936
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Minimum Wage | 8-Hour Work
Day | 40-HOur Work Week
Overtime Pay | Child Labor Laws
Safe Food and Drug Act – 1938
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Federal Food Assistance – 1939
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Expanded under
President Lyndon B. Johnson – 1964
GI Bill of Rights – 1944
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Right to Free Public Schools – 1944
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Employment Act of 1946
President Harry S. Truman
The Clean Water Act – 1948
President Harry S. Truman
Expanded under
President Jimmy Carter – 1977
Clean Air Act of 1963
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Equal Pay Act of 1963
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Civil Rights Act of 1964
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Equal Employment Opportunity – 1964
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Head Start Program – 1965
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Medicare and Medicaid – 1965
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Pell Grants – 1965
President Lyndon B. Johnson
President Barack Obama increased
number of awards – 2010
Voting Rights Act of 1965
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Fair Housing Act of 1968
President Lyndon B. Johnson
Americans with Disabilities Act – 1990
Introduced by Senator Tom Harkin
Passed by Senate and House –
both majority Democrats
The Family and Medical Leave Act – 1993
President Bill Clinton
American Reinvestment &
Recovery Act – 2009
President Barack Obama
Children’s Health Insurance
Pro gram (CHIP) Reauthorization
Act of 2009
President Barack Obama
Credit Card Holders’ Bill of Rights – 2009
President Barack Obama
Hate Crimes Prevention Act – 2009
President Barack Obama
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act – 2009
President Barack Obama
Stem Cell Research – 2009
President Barack Obama ended
the ban on such research
Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau – 2010
President Barack Obama
Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell
Repeal Act of 2010
President Barack Obama
Economic Recovery Plan – 2010
President Barack Obama
Middle Class Tax Cuts |
Strengthened
Unemployment Benefits &
COBRA Health Insurance
Infrastructure Projects
Education Jobs & Medicaid
Assistance Act – 2010
President Barack Obama
Patient Protection and
Affordable Care Act – 2010
President Barack Obama
Student Loan Reform – 2010
President Barack Obama
According to Trump, wearing a mask is the patriotic thing to do…
Says he looks like the Lone Ranger…
Is it really ? I would say it’s not being naive.
I don’t see it as being anything other than that, so no point in further back and forth.
That in itself is fair enough but I suspect if that were fully true, you would have at least some concern that there is a very clear issue with the integrity of the election and that is widely becoming a non partisan view point.
I’m sure there are merits historically from both parties but again I say as an observer the thick of the corruption in recent times is dominated by democrats and yet you appear to gloss over that.
Anyway your position is clear as is mine, we best let this thread get back on topic.
Apologies @Exodus for the wandering.
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Fauci is a poisonous snake!
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No, no concerns whatsoever. Why, because Republican governors, Republican state SOS’s, Republican election managers, Trump’s own administration officials all tell me that this was a free and fair election, with the highest level of security in US election history, and void of any widespread or systemic fraud. Your position in light of that is illogical…
These “Acts” all sound nice, but the Presidents in question are those hell bent on abrogating the Constitution.
Wilson? Who helped form the Federal Reserve?
Obama? Don’t ask, don’t tell?
Come on.
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So, how does the covid narrative fit it?
I guess it doesn’t.
Yeah, that’s old news. There’s a slew of coronaviruses, Covid 19 is novel…(a new one) 
You’re right they do, particularly if you’re an American, living in America, and as such the beneficiary of those nice acts…
If you’re an American, living in America, these liberal measures meant ruination of the country.
Not only that, Wilson’s Fed Reserve Act brought on World Wars I and II and countless other miseries to the rest of the world.
Well no, that’s what I’m saying, I’m an American, living in America, and that list of acts you said are nice, are nice, and were improvements to life, and part of the list of things that make America great. Pity you don’t enjoy the same in Japan…
And the list I offered didn’t say anything about the federal reserve act…
I said they sound nice.
What’s the culmination of these acts?
BLM and Antifa violence that destroyed the Northwest this year.
And rampant black crimes in any major city in America.
You’re so lucky not living in any of these parts of America.
Well, just to point to one of them, the 40 hour work week and overtime pay for over 8 hour shift. I can’t help it if you don’t see the value in that. But as an American and a beneficiary of it, I can tell you it was an improvement on life for Democrat and Republican alike, and there are no republicans refusing their overtime pay…
Stop derailing this thread.