I'm fed up with the poor in America

If those people worked as hard and getting an education, vocational training etc and developed a true work ethic they’d have near limitless potential.

Unfortunately our neo socialism has become a voluntary plantation.

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It’s become too easy to collect free shit from the government. Politicians have made great careers from making sure these folks get all the free shit they want.

no truer words spoken

The existence of a case, though, is not a valid basis to rule on the Constitution.

Which is to say that the Court has been too often presumptuously altering the application of the Constitution based on cases rather than deciding cases within the confines of the Constitution.

(The classic example is them saying that if the expenditure is disallowed the purpose for which a tax is levied is thwarted.)

Or, as I’ve pointed out based on what Marshall actually wrote in Marbury, an obligation to fidelity arising only because they take a certain oath has been misused as if it is a power for endless infidelity, to constructively make new Law rather than only destructively dispensing with objects contrary to the Law.

And that’s where the modern Court really is lawless, for they have used an obligation to preserve as a power to rewrite, to scribble in margin note and redirect all inquiries there rather than to the Constitution.

I had a girl (call her girl 1) who worked for me who had all of that down pat.

She actually didn’t want a raise, because she’d lose her “benefits”.

The last hurricane that came through here, she told another employee (girl 2) to go stand in line for a big free food handout. So Girl 2 took time off of work to do so. She hadn’t lost a damn thing in the hurricane, including food, but it was FREE. When I found out, we had a nice little “come to Jesus” talk :wink:

I got a form from a government agency that Girl 1 had applied for government “assistance” for lost wages after the hurricane. Yet, I paid all of my employees their regular wages (they still kept their vacation and sick time) so that no one would be harmed financially.

I even took Girl 1 and her daughter into my home for two weeks until she got her electricity back. Did she even contribute in any way shape or form? A thank you note? Clean the room you stayed in? Erp. Nope.

There is a difference in the exploiters versus the people who need a hand up.

I think we are all fed up with the exploiters and those that game the system.

I don’t think I will ever tire of helping those who just want enough to get themselves back on their own two feet. “There but for the grace of God go I”.

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There is nothing worse, than seeing someone coming up to me and asking if I have any spare money or cigarettes. I tell them to stop asking for a handout and get a job.
I had one of those episodes with a man. He seem clean shaven and seem like he could work at some tech firm. His excuse? He was fired from his job a few months ago because he went to work intoxicated. I am thinking to myself, he wants money to pay for his drinking habit. I respectfully decline to help him. I even gave him a card where he could go where he could work on getting a job - a business card for Manpower, Inc.
He just threw it in the nearby trash bin and walked away.

And that is fine. That is on him. And good for you for not being an enabler.

Imagine all of the time and effort spent trying to panhandle? I would find it emotionally exhausting. Less emotionally exhausting is to do a job, do it well and be paid for it. That puts me in control of my successes and failures (opportunities).

I think anyone who has been burned by the “exploiters” gets a good feel for who is really in need and who is not.

Imagine a person who burst into tears in gratitude that you gave them a lead for an opportunity? Imagine a person who, if you offered to take them out for some food, was grateful to have a meal? Damn, I’d bend over backwards for them.

It’s still legal in New York City?
That’s the problem. If the state or local city keeps advocating it’s ok…that is why people will think it’s ok. JMO

The guy down the street has serious health issues. He can barely walk. oxygen, and still goes out everyday for coffee, the paper and just gets out of the house. A few months ago we had a bit of snow so I shoveled around his car and sidewalk so he could get out.
He told me I didn’t;t have to do that. My response is I still can so I do. He was beyond grateful.

A few weeks ago a rabbit dug under his concert porch. I filled it and covered it will thug rocks so it would come back.

All he said is no on had ever helped him before and was grateful.

I really don’t mind helping people like him as they appreciate that someone would take time to help them.

Others, not so much.

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My general rule is that I will help anyone who’s trying to help themselves or who has been. I also expect to see them “pay it forward” and help others as they have been helped.

Those looking to live off of handouts need not apply.

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I can tell you are a good soul. I do the same thing when I can. I don’t mind at times going out of my way to assist someone in need. There’s a huge difference.
People who are able-bodied people and rather scam to get what they want. Take advantage of someone helping them - that is where I draw the line. And cut it.

Amazing this is the type of thing a lot of us do without help from the government.

I think… we may be a dying breed. :pensive:

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Most of us have learned the line and when to cut it.

The “war” is between those in politics who have no line they want to cut and those of us who demand a line be drawn so that the ones truly in need can be taken care of.

I believe it is more of politics that are dividing us all. Seems that everyday, something or someone is “politicized” and then the “war of words” fuels the sparks that will eventually ignite a much more dangerous “war”. JMO

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Look at the democratic candidates right now. All they have to offer is freebies. They have absolutely nothing to offer other than that.

Hell, I’d take a candidate who said they are in line with the Constitution, the intent of the Constitution and preserving it as their platform.

We are truly at a tipping point where the “takers” who vote outnumber the people who PAY taxes vote.

Scary times.

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It’s just helping those in ned. It isn’t hard and takes little time yet many believe it’s not their job but governments job to take care of people.

Look at how many seniors are dumped into senior housing and are not visited by their children.

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@LouMan I am in my late 40’s, so I can’t really imagine how many seniors are dumped in senior housing and not visited by their own children. Both my parents passed away a few years ago. I do have sisters. But I hardly see them. Long story.
I like to think I am a good citizen. I try to help out people those who are in need. I volunteer 3 days a week (mostly on my lunch breaks) and at dinners on weekends.
I live alone and I don’t really have a set time to go to work. Which is nice.
But I have been on that other side of the spectrum (maybe not the word I was looking for, but nonetheless). I am not saying that I am wealthy, but I do make enough to live. Not to survive. I pay my taxes and I pretty much mind my own business.
I know this is a political forum. But I would like to share others one day about myself. But I am mostly here to converse.

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I am not sure if I am getting this part right, so correct me if I am wrong as I am going purely off the TOP my head, but wasn’t Vicksburg one of the last strong holds during the Civil war, where they were dug in underground?

It is perched above the Mississippi River at its confluence with the Yazoo River. At the time, river transportation was the lifeblood of the inner United States. He who controlled the river, controlled the flow of goods to and from the center of the nation. (Today’s Mississippi River transport barges go north of Chicago.)

The Siege of Vicksburg occurred about midway through the war. (Spring of '62 to July of '63)

…and yes, the people of Vicksburg dug in…so much that it came to be called “Prairie Dog Village”.

Yeah that is what I thought. I watched the Ken Burns Documentary and for the most part is one of my favorites to watch, even though he pushed the narrative that the war was about slavery, which I am sure there has and continues to this day is a contested issue, one in which I don’t agree with; of course that is an entire different debate. Anyway, fascinating!