Recoil wise, this would probably work well with a 12 ga mini shot shell like I use in my Mossberg Shockwave.
I’m trying to figure out how this is legal but a sawed off shotgun is not.
I agree. A friend of mine just bought a Mossberg Shockwave. Its very comfortable to shoot with the mini shells. And given the energy from those shorties, the Diablo would be a very formidable short range defense weapon.
Its a pistol, not a sawed off shotgun. The ATF classifies it as a “firearm.”
So if I saw the stock and the barrel from a shotgun, I’d have a pistol?
No. Then you have a sawed off shotgun, which is illegal. It is not illegal to manufacture a pistol that fires shotgun shells.
I didn’t say that it has to make sense.
How the Diablo, and the Mossberg Shockwave get around not being classified a “sawed off shotgun” is that they were never designed to have a shoulder stock. ATF classifies them as a “firearm”.
Federally you’re golden but they may run afoul of state and locak gun laws.
There is also a school of thought (among the conspiracy minded) that allowing them is a set up … like with the bump stocks. Approve them now, then change their minds and confiscate them later.
First thing one learns when dealing with any bureaucracy, policy is not logical.
That double looks like a Howdah Pistol.
Should be standard equipment on all vehicles
This little Bond Arms Snake Slayer is a double barrel, over/under derringer and will shoot both .45cal long Colt or 2¾" 410 gauge shotgun shells. I keep it loaded with Hornady Critical Defense shells having two .35 cal round balls and a .41 cal slug inside. I use the same shells in my Taurus The Judge 5 shot revolver.
Bond makes quite a few rather “odd ducks” but they are very good quality firearms.
Same with the Remington 870 Marine Magnum Tactical that I purchased yesterday.
It’s a fully nickle plated weapon (even the inside of the barrel) and is essentially a Remington 870 12ga pump with a really short stock.
Here’s an image of the notice that came with it.
I’m guessing it has a full, legal length barrel.
Pistol gripped shotguns are fine and legal. If you however cut it shorter than 18 1/4" (if I remember right) makes it an illegal sawed off shotgun irrespective of the stock length.
This weapon is not classified as a shotgun. It is not classified as a pistol grip shotgun. It is not classified as a sawed off shotgun. It is not classified as a shotgun…PERIOD.
It is a firearm.
The barrel length is 14".
Ok then. If it were 18 1/4" then they’d classify it as a shotgun with or without the pistol grip stock.
It’s when you cut one off that it becomes illegal.
Manufacturing a short barrel shotgun would make more sense.