The political system was build with a fail safe, the electoral college to prevent the tyranny of the majority (large population centers) which is being circumvented today.
National Vote referendum passed in 11 states.
Labour thought it a good idea to make their party leadership process more Democratic. Corbyn is the result.
As I said, be careful what you wish for. Mobs and Demagogues.
So you call subverting democracy winning? You lost way back in June 2016 but refused to accept it. Absolutely, be careful what you wish for, because that would be a dictatorship.
There is only one version of leave. You and all the other remaintards confuse trade deal with leaving. The two are independent. Why not negotiate a trade deal once weâre out?
Once again: It was a non-binding referendum. Leave voters keep framing it as if it was an election that is being over-turned. It wasnât and isnât.
There are many different versions of leave. Farage et al were arguing in favor of a Swiss or Norway style deal where weâd retain free trade while not being an EU member, though both those countries agreed to free movement in exchange.
We can absolutely negotiate a trade deal with the EU once weâve left the EU. Canada only took 7 years to negotiate their deal, though it was far far simpler than any deal weâd be after (doesnât include services provisions) and there was no bad blood to get in the way.
I figure it would take around a decade+ to get a trade deal in place with the EU. Economically weâd probably be looking at a lost decade ala-Japan as well. At best.
Mark Carney is smarter than a lot of people give him the credit for.
In the Daily Rag today (in the barbers) it seems that half the cabinet have threatened to resign in the event of a no-deal.
âŚI wonder if we would miss them!
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âŚand there were those who knew which way they were voting before the pissing contest began.
Interesting to see you amongst your countrymen.
On the wrong side of history on your side of the pond too.
No surprise.
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So we need to keep open borders with most of the third world trying to get in here so you can swan in and out of Spain when you please ? I was right about your age group, me me me me !!
Iâm sure following a proper BREXIT Spain will not want to lose itâs long term income from us Brits and will likely be very accommodating for holders of a British passport.
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The EU doesnât control our immigration policy towards non-EU citizens or our refugee policies. You know that, right?
Doesnât look like a hard Brexit is ever going to happen now, but weâll see. I would not rely on the goodwill of EU states after one though, residency in a foreign country has lots of complications.
No, it was a once in a lifetime true democratic vote, far more important than an election.
Why are you so hung up about a trade deal? We buy shed loads more from the EU than they do from us. We are BMWâs biggest customer. You donât seem to understand simple business. They should be throwing themselves at us, grovelling to sell to us. We are the ones with the money, so why do you think we should be begging? There is the rest of the world to trade with. The EU is only a small part. We will have the whole US market free from EU tariffs. What is so bad about that?
I tell you why. Because the whole leave process is run by inept remainers who have the business sense of a newt. There is also their refusal to accept the democratic decision of the people and do their best to overturn that decision. On the other hand, the EU has to be seen to punish us. There is no way they could give us a decent deal, in case other countries get any ideas about leaving. That is why we should only negotiate after we have left.
7 years to get a trade deal?! Right. Look, if the EU is slow or unwilling, so be it. They can sod off. Trump has pen over paper right now and is waiting for us.
Is trade and the economy your only concerns? Does it mean nothing to you that we will be a free sovereign nation once again, free to make our own laws? Obviously not. Be very careful, because you are wishing against democracy and freedom and you know where that leads.
I made the economic argument to you above because even your top hand doesnât stack up, but to me and many others, economy is secondary. Perhaps we should have let Hitler invaded, because fighting Germany certainly wasnât good for the economy.
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You do know that the Millions already floating around Europe who have asylum become eligible to apply for EU passport in 6 or so years ? Of course there are the many thousands who already have fake ones and then there are also the millions of French muslims of African origins who are are also free to roam and then there are Europeâs Romany communities who are also free to roam. All that ends when you need a British passport or need to meet strict immigration rules which are adhered to.
We also need to work on ditching that bullshit Marrakesh Agreement next too. That will give all you do gooders something else to whine about.
EDIT: How long before Albania âŚTurkey âŚSerbia in EU⌠EU will be desperate for the cash.
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ME shitholes and Africa too. More basket cases to keep the Euro down and us to pay for them all! Well, whatâs the problem, itâs not like weâre not used to it.
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They want to destroy the nation state
Did you ever wonder where th idea of open borders originated?
Maybe the bible?
God long ago promised Jacob that his descendants would spread seaward, east, north, and south into the Negev (Gen. 28:14) â no borders were mentioned. Isaiah told the people, âEnlarge your tentâŚspread right and left, and inherit the nations.â (54:2-3) Moreover, the West Bank â Yehudah vâShomron , Judea and Samaria â is the locus of our ancestral lands. Much of what is now Israel proper was Philistine, the source and namesake of Palestine.
Now ask yourself Cui Bono?? And which country refuses to identify its borders? Why?
âA nation without bordersâ â How the occupation unwinds Israel
From the blog of David Seidenberg at The Times of Israel
The Philistines are not the Palestinians.
Israel has a huge fuck of wall for parts of itsâ border.
All you do is talk shite.
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Philistine, the source and namesake of Palestine.
Maybe - but if it is shite why does it wind you up so?
Itâs annoying having to read your shite all the time, and you clearly have an agenda.
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No-one asked you to read it, its a free speech site - you are free to read anything you like. Agenda?? qui moi? - no its my Hasbara mates with an agenda
I didnât say anyone asked me to read it, stupid. If there is anyone who is a paid troll itâs you. Itâs not an exaggeration to say that you literally spam the same anti-West and anti-â â â crap everywhere.
The entire board is infested with your nonsense, it spans many threads. I come to read about Brexit, and oh look, more â â â hating bullshit. You attempt to turn even the most unrelated topic into a post about the â â â â â
Your agenda is so transparent.
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