The EU [CB] are panicking, they do not want the UK to break away, this would be a disaster for the EU and it would expose the EU and other countries would follow.
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/it-began-with-the-brexit-it-will-end-with-the-cb/
After Mayâs defeat, she went back and forth to Brussels, but as far as I know, the EU have not budged. She has a revamped deal which she will put to Parliamentary vote on March 12th now. I have no idea if it is any different to her previous one.
How can May do that without Parliamentary approval? Parliament has already ruled out abolishing no deal. What she is trying to do is to rule out Brexit, because there is only one true Brexit, what the people voted for, and that involves being out of the customs union.
They voted at the end of January to specifically rule out no deal. Not a legally binding vote, but theyâre on record.
Thereâs not a majority constituency in favor of no deal. Not in the public, not in parliament and not in Govt.
The people voted for something that wasnât possible. So now weâre only left with several bad options.
And I donât believe the customs union was at the forefront of most leave voters minds. Immigration and the often undefined âsovereigntyâ were.
Typical bedwetter view. Get a back bone you remoaners are just a bunch of weak, feeble losers. If you feel better about being part of the EU so much, go and live in a member country. We voted leave. That doesnât mean being shackled in any way, deal with it or go forth !
Nah, Iâd rather convince my MP to ignore the non-binding referendum instead.
Or convince him to vote in favor of holding another one. Heâs been pretty amenable so far.
Parliament is Sovereign, thatâs how our system of Government works. If you want to live in a direct democracy, you can always move to Switzerland maybe. At least while youâve got an EU passport.
You just need to let the weakness leave your body and stand up straight and proud and not be stuck in your losing mole hole.
It doesnât matter the reason why people voted to leave, the choice was leave yes or no, itâs simple and you whiners need to suck it up and get on with it. I donât know what age you are but I wager under 35. Such a weak generation in general.
Once again, we donât live in a direct democracy. You seem to think your vote was in some way binding - it wasnât.
Not my fault if you thought otherwise. I knew mine certainly wasnât.
So iâll continue talking to my MP, whose vote actually will matter, and see how things pan out.
Iâll be ok either way, even if the economy tanks as a result of a no-deal Brexit. It will just mean my long term plans might have to change a bit, largely depending upon how Spain treats expats etc.
And yeah iâm just a smidge under 35 at 34 
Fucking typical, main concern was how Spain will treat expats. That comment and your age says it all lad. I wonât be engaging any further.
Is Mark changing his mind I wonder - this could be a good sign! If anyone knows which way the wind is blowing our head honcho should
ââMark Carney has hitherto been a mild and rather mocking critic of Brexit. But earlier this month he made some thoughtful remarks that deserve closer attention than they have so far received. Discussing the worldwide revolt against international trade and the commitments underpinning it, he said: âIn many respects, Brexit is the first test of the new global order. It could prove the acid test of whether a way can be found to broaden the benefits of openness, while enhancing democratic accountability⌠[through] a better balance of local and supranational authorities.â The logic implies a radical critique of everything the EU stands for; and that in turn implies a strong endorsement of Britainâs decision to quit.ââ
And if you get the ââwrongââ answer again? - Best of 3??
Why not? Then why was it an option on the ballot paper?
It was certainly at the forefront of Project Fear. Do you want me to post the speech where Cameron threatened âout of the customs unionâ 28 times? We heard and we voted.
Would the second one be legally binding or would that depend on the result?
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May should call the Remainers bluff and refuse to extend Brexit. If they resign the government will not have a majority, at which point it is a general election is likely on the cards. Then those Remainers can be de-selected by the party, and with Corbyn now backing a second referendum, the Conservatives should have a clearer path to a majority.
The weak link is May, since she promised not to contest the next referendum, meaning their resignations could cost her job.
That wasnât my main concern when I voted. Itâs definitely one of my major concerns on a personal level, being able to live in Spain for some of the year would be a big bonus. As would being able to work there or start a business there.
I doubt youâd see a third.
Might see a second Scottish Independence vote too.
Apostasy has its price.
There was leave or stay, and leave voters were not in agreement on what leaving might look like in real terms, imo.
Once you start ask what leaving might look like, you get a variety of different answers. What the leave campaign said/promised leave would look like hasnât appeared and isnât possible.
Ah, but what was the leave campaign promising? Certainly not a hard no-deal Brexit. They were campaigning against a no-deal Brexit.
Do you really think thatâs what leave voters voted for? All of them? Most of them? 52 to 48, how many would you need to lose for remain to have won? Not many.
No UK referendum is going to be legally binding. Parliament makes law, not the majority population. The mob doesnât rule, for better or worse.
But if giving MPâs a second referendum where the majority votes to stay gives them sufficient political cover to feel safe enough to vote to stay, so be it.
I find it amazing how politicians circumvent the will of the people. Applies to the UK as well as the US.
Recently we have a movement to circumvent the electoral college by pledging the electoral votes to the popular vote winner circumventing the will of the people as well as the constitution.
You forget, May is a remainer. As are the majority of Tory MPâs, and the majority of Labour MPâs and Lib Dem MPâs.
No deal is now looking like a non-starter. I think us remain voters have won this particular battle, but we shall see.
The entire US political system is designed to circumvent the âwill of the peopleâ, aka the mob.
Be careful what you wish for.