How ya been? Been a long time!
Iāve been alright. I feel like my life has been improving over the past year. I also think I might finally be reforming my broken politics into a coherent worldview, something Iāve been waiting for for at least six years.
Whatās going on with you? You didnāt transition to the new Hannity forum. It wasnāt bad, for the first few months, at least.
Healthcare would not be free. Everyone would have to contribute.
The Left: advancing government in all circumstances whatsoever because itās bad if people have to take care of their own needs.
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Soā¦ it would not be free ā¦ like in Jamaica?
How would Medicare for all prevent someone from taking care of their own needs? The government wonāt be scheduling appointments for you? They wonāt be diagnosing you. It actually free people up from the overly complicated insurance structure.
Why should the government provide services for individual welfare at all? It is not a delegated power of the federal government anyway.
And if you wanted to free up the complicated insurance structure you might undo Left Wing mocking about with mandating levels of coverage that caused a lot of the complexity to begin with.
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They do for SS. They do for Medicare. They do for VA. All freeway/interstate infrastructure is for individual welfare.
The first two of which are backed by enumerated powers.
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The VA is covered as an aspect of being an employer, that as an employer the federal has any rights common to employers.
As for the roads being for individual welfare, thatās laughable. Roads are nominally covered because we still have a post office (a delegated power) and use them as post roads,
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Just keeping busy at work. I had taken a break from Hannity because I found myself being too angry at the same old trolls and it wasnāt fun anymore. Then decided to go get a degree so I could move into a VP role and Iām in that process now. Time has been a bit short with school, work, my grandson and the such. Now I just stop by on occasion to read a bit and itās fun here without all of the PC nonsense. 
Great to see you again!
Like they do now? Not sure youāve seen the latest figures on taxation but are you suggesting everyone contributes? Are you suggesting with the new entitlement, everyone would contribute equally?
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Hereās a fundamental difference. These folks are talking Medicare for all. Not Medicare for those that pay, like the system is structured today. Not SS for those that pay, like itās currently structured. The freeway/interstate is a bit different as itās not a personal benefit, itās a public benefit. The two are very different animals. Then going to VA, again, this is a benefit that is available to those that earn it, not available to all.
Thereās a huge difference between funding something for 50 years with your taxes, then getting a benefit at the end of life and getting a benefit for the rest of your life that you havenāt paid into. . . One is an extremely inefficient way to retire that gives you horrible benefits vs the amount you contribute, the other is an entitlement that will bankrupt this nation.
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If a little is goodā¦ alot will be better?
Is that about the sum of your view?
You do know that none of the programs you listed are a long term success, donāt you? Running out of money, people dying while they wait, etc.
Andā¦noā¦ roads were needed for other reasons and certainly not all are paid for by feds.
I donāt think everyone should contribute evenly. It should be progressive just like our tax system. There may be other ways to do this but I am drawing a blank.
Not sure how you would tier it based on health/ageā¦ but it could work.
Even with Medicare for all, people could opt out and choose their own private insurance. I think in those scenarios they should have their taxes lowered (but not eliminated) to help them afford their own insurance.
Isnāt having a health population beneficial to the public? Just like roads? Having roads and healthy roads benefits me as an individual. If each town had to fund their own portion of a freeway, I as an individual would be paying more for things to be shipped to me. The fact that the funding is public takes that inconsistency out.
Medicare isnāt a success? What is your measure?
I didnāt say all roads are funded by the feds, interstates are, some freeways, some local roads. Either way it is a personal benefit to me to have interstates and it is publicly funded.
ROTFLMAO.
Woulda coulda shoulda.
If the authors of the constitution woulda but didnāt.
If we didnāt have 22 trillion in debt, couda.
If we didnāt waste 1 trillion a year today on healthcare shoulda.
And itās a commodity not a right.
You have a right to pay for healthcare if you want healthcare.
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Not sure if Jamaicans pay attention to all words in sentence. But letās try to here. I said ālong term successā. Itās running out of money.
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If you opt out, do you opt out of the payment as well? In principle, I have no problem with an opt in system but Iāve never heard a single politician suggest that. It would need to be on a segregated account rather than coming from the general fund to see if itāll stand on its own two feet. What I believe would happen is that itāll roll into the general fund and Iāll end up paying for mine AND for the health care of others as well.