How is Mueller’s report bad news for democrats, it’s only bad news for the swamp rats that are going to prison as s result of his work.
Drain the swamp. 
Show me a ten foot wall, and i will show you an 11 foot ladder.
A wall is a deterent, not a barrier, just like any other means of border protection.
The question is, “What is the best means of border protection?”
Bumperersticker one liners aren’t helping your case and we’re not talking about 10’ walls either.
We’re talking about barriers that are 20-30’ above and below ground that will absolutely act as a deterrent and as a barrier.
Physical barriers are also the only way to prevent illegals from actually penetrating into the US and as we all know once they have penetrated into the interior even if caught they are very difficult to get rid of.
What’s best? Exactly what we’ve been talking about, effective physical barriers, electronic monitoring above and below ground and rapid deployment capability for the border patrol.
Combine them all and we alleviate the crisis at the border and the strain on both the BP and ICE as well as the immigration courts.
We can’t possibly hire enough immigration judges to even begin to deal with the flood nor can we even begin to detain them all until final disposition of their cases.
Some of us actually want to solve the problem rather than ignore it while it festers like a boil until it explodes.
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Ive got a 24’ ladder in my garage.
Yes a 30 foot wall is a deterrent, but many conservatives chant “wall!” while failing to acknowledge the other, more effective, means of border security, which you mentioned.
Good luck with that.
No, the other things mentioned are useless without effective physical barriers, they are certainly no deterrent to the tens of thousands fleeing northward planning to claim asylum who know once they make it into the interior, particularly if they have kids with them there’s very little chance they’ll ever be sent back.
You really dont understand defenses.
They up the cost to your adversary. That is it. Please… stay within the knowledge domains in which you have some experience…
His post count would automatically drop by at least 95% if he did.
ever been to the Hungary -serbia border
or Hungary - croatia border
gaza -israel
Israel -egypt
saudi arabia -yemen
The vatican city
secured fences work too, The white house comes to mind
China-korea
nobody is condemning them or their reasons (mostly to keep illegals out) , but because Trump is actually doing something about it he is considered evil?
Twisted logic there
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The WH fence was actually raised during the Obama Administration to make it a more effective barrier.
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okay, but my point was there is a fence guarding the White house to keep unwanted people out, its okay for the white house but not okay for the southern part of the country.
Just playing off of your ball Max and accentuating your point.
alrighty then…
…and it’s okay to maintain a wall around Nancy Pelosi’s mansion. That one is not immoral.
Not most of them, but the vatican has swiss guards, and is a very small space.
My only personal experience of why your arguments hold no water
False equivalence
It’s a matter of scale here. How can you compare an 18 acre piece of property to 1.9 billion acres?
explain why its a false equivalence?
I think you missed the point Dave
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The area on neither side of a wall alters its function as a deterrent to getting there.
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Where is this 1.9Bn Acres that anyone is proposing we build a wall around?
It does as the scale gets larger. It still works to some degree, but the weaknesses are increased with the scale.
The white house is a much
more concentrated area, relative to the length of its fence, not to mention the overwhelming number of specialized security officers per linear foot of border within the white house grounds, relative to what is along rhe us/mexico border.
Perhaps these inherent weaknesses can be offset with electronic dectection devices and more border patrol agents along the Mexican border.
But it does affect the logistics of defending it