Do a hitch or two and get back with us on that.
For my kids and the guys to my left and right.
Nations exist because people with common goals, values, and beliefs banded together to form them.
Thereâs nothing âmagicâ about our constitution, it was a divinely inspired work of great mean of even greater vision who were willing to sacrifice everything for the ideal of living in a land free of the oppression of King George.
nothing magic
divinely inspired
Heretical, and wrong.
Mhhm, that 2% tax rate sure was oppressive. Those men were Englishmen, who themselves honored their history and Faustian spirit with their rebellion. Your concept that America just sprang into being because God willed it is a conceit to enable the idea of American Exceptionalism. As soon as the idea was made manifest, all previous history was wiped clean, and this is far from the truth. The constitution is fundamentally based on the English Common Law and the Magna Carta- without this lineage, the concept of the constitution could not be formed. Magical thinking gets us nowhere.
I have reduced Doc to just posting gif responses. I think heâs finally close to committing sudoku.
No I am laughing at you because you canât admit you got your asses kicked! You are one delusional cuck!
Doc, weâre not talking about Yankees versus Brits in 1775, you utter numbskull. Arenât you of the people that my people, um, fucking annihilated first? We were discussing the root of American identity, to which TWR believes is the constitution and the founders, and I contend runs far older than that through the blood of the people.
Please, for the sake of good arguments, be silent unless you have something useful to say.
No you fucking retard this is where American exceptionalism started. I guess the point was lost on you!
Why we are considered Citizens as opposed to you being a subject! You never knew what freedom was or is! All the rest of the nonsense you are babbling about sums up your fucking moronic logic!
I donât know why so many folks who are presumably my age are struggling with this. Barack Obama purposefully tore down positive race relations in the US when he repeatedly inserted himself and his Justice Department into local law enforcement issues. It was under Barack Obama that we got gay marriage, transgender bathrooms, Black Lives Matter, and the perpetual grievance committee that takes offense to everyone that isnât a minority and everything that is not controlled or created by minorities. History keeps get blackwashed, white men are represented less and less in the media (and when they are represented it is with a negative connotation), when a white person calls a minority out for acting foolish in public, they lose their jobsâŚthe list goes on and on.
This should be controversial to no one who is paying attention. The fact that white people, specifically white males wonât stand up for themselves is evidence of an identity crisis in my view. The fact that so many of you seem to be piling on with attempts at guilt and shame are just feeding the beast that the left created.
Try having a conversation and being a part of the solution.
There is no arguing this! He set the table for what we are dealing with today! From the playbook âRules for Radicalsâ everything we are witnessing today is a direct result of his policies hatched up by Podesta from the Center Of American Progress! Sanctuary Cities, Immigration crisis to overwhelm the system, the ACA, along with everything else you list aforementioned.
âŚwonder if she wants some white dnaâŚ
So is it any surprise that the kids are having extreme reactions to this? They donât have the depth or experience in many cases to put all of this together. Letâs work with them on this instead of picking fights.
Anyone who has had kids know how they react to things when they first figure something out. Itâs always with extreme reaction - that profound âa-haâ sensation. Letâs not beat then down and say they havenât picked up on something because we all know they have. All I see here is a disagreement on root causeâŚnot outcome.
Extreme? There is no level of critical thinking and it devolves into conspiracy nonsense. Its a waste of time talking about that, when time can better spent coming up with solutions. I have not heard any solutions, only hateful rhetoric that is imbecilic.
Itâs always with extreme reaction - that profound âa-haâ sensation. Letâs not beat then down and say they havenât picked up on something because we all know they have. All I see here is a disagreement on root causeâŚnot outcome.
Ok, you are right and make a good point! I can be contrite about this, and admit my tolerance is short, so if people can start showing the same civility then I will do the same. I am more than willing to discuss solutions to solving problems.
Iâm white and American donât care much about folks who may have an identity crisis I do know I donât want racists to think they are speaking for me or I need their support. I DONâT.
Again - I see a disagreement in root cause here in this thread. Do you not see that whites in general have been vilified and that âwhitenessâ (aka being born white) is viewed as a hate crime in and of itself? White skin is now an offense and you have white people feeding into this and other white people making those who call bullshit feel badly about doing so. We need to figure out how to unscrew this.
Again - I see a disagreement in root cause here in this thread. Do you not see that whites in general have been vilified and that âwhitenessâ (aka being born white) is viewed as a hate crime in and of itself?
I have already acknowledged I do see Whites being vilified, but my argument is not along racial lines, it is way more complex than just about race, but many issues along race that is part of a larger paradigm at work here. Our Institutions, Christianity, traditional marriage, Language, gender, Values, Social economic, are all being attack as a result of the Post Modernists movement. The root cause is not one group as many have suggested, but a paradigm that has been happening since the 50âs, it just becoming exacerbated by the technological revolution in the advent of social media and the internet, as well as social engineering and cultural re-appropriation. If you ever listen to Jordan Peterson, he talks about this phenomenon in great detail, and so does Dr Stephen Hicks.
I agree with the majority of your points. I think the fundamental transformation that we see is purposeful. I think we should work to identify whose purpose it serves and why. Clearly - this is a push from the elites. Why? I donât have the answer to that yet. Some believe they do and thatâs fine. I wonât say they are right or wrong because I havenât seen enough evidence to determine the âwhoâ although I have see some strong correlations between one particular group and the aspects you raise.
I like Jordan Peterson, my only real gripe with him is that he seems completely willing to give minority groups independent agency and autonomy but wonât do so for whites - going so far as to imply that white people do not have a common shared culture. I find that odd based on his arguments.
I am no white nationalist (although I am white and I am a nationalist). I had 4 boys starting at age 20 and had the last one at 25. I have 13 grandkids now. Two of my boys married non-white girls. My oldest boy married an Indian gal who could have been a Bollywood actress. She is beautiful and I told my son that with a mug like ours he better not let her go. They gave us 4 grandkids. Sheâs a pediatrician and heâs a full time Army Reservist who just made LTC. My youngest son married a girl he met in Japan when he was stationed there. She was a local newscaster. Also absolutely stunning. They gave us 3 grandkids. I donât think Iâll be allowed in the ethno-state anytime soon.
Personally, I believe in free association. I also think there is a war on white people and that our youngest generation of sons seem unwilling to stand up for themselves on this issue.
Clearly - this is a push from the elites. Why? I donât have the answer to that yet. Some believe they do and thatâs fine
I am not sure I agree with the view that there is a grand scheme all across the board, at least not in its genesis, although I have entertained that premise many times, but humans are too much about self interest more than anything to keep a grand plan cohesive enough to have lasted over a hundred years. I think in present form though, with wealth being the main driver of control of a larger construct in terms of political and ideology is more concentrated and coming into more view.
I wonât say they are right or wrong because I havenât seen enough evidence to determine the âwhoâ although I have see some strong correlations between one particular group and the aspects you raise.
Yes I do agree that there are correlations with a particular group of people, but I am not willing to assign a larger narrative of conspiracy to castigate them as being the root cause. I merely see things coincidental contributions that eventually may appear to be part of a larger plan, but they are not. We are just too far into tribal politics now for that to be the case.
For example, Jacques Derrida was one of the most influential philosophers of the 20th century, who so happened to be â â â â â â â His most famous writing is âGramatologyâ which gave Western thought the concept of âDeconstructionâ. His views on how he saw immigration with no borders, the breaking down of institutions, College academia as being a place of activism, among other things. His life in earlier years was one in which he himself experienced discrimination because of being â â â â â â created hardships and was a influential factor in how his views were formed. The point I am making here, is that a lot of what he was motivated by he used as a impetus to change certain things he saw as injustices of the world. Whether you agree with his views or not, he was one cog that had an impactful influence on how the world uses language today. His theory of Deconstruction is very much used today to attack how we communicate and how we interpret our language within meanings of the world around us. He was not part of a grand scheme of a certain group of people but an independent thinker whose views are having devastating consequences in todays world.
The elites are nothing more than the modern day aristocracy that sees the world as something they can control and are ever so close to doing so with a myriad of technological tools at their disposal. However, the commoner still has the numbers and thus a push back is expected. Aristocratic, or plutocracy if you will is not a new concept and has been around as long as man has bought into the idea of Governance by consensus, and like all periods of time there was always something that acted as a catalyst to keep that part of humanity in check. Things like BREXIT, the election of TRUMP, The Yellow Vest movement and Italy are early signs that there is a rebuke of what we like to call the modern aristocracy âthe Globalistsâ and their policies. As the saying goes this too shall pass as another recorded time in our history where change happens and another paradigm begins to be ushered in. What the end result will be? I have no idea, but I would like to think at some point when change is needed it will be recognized for not do so will be catastrophic for everyone, including the âElitesâ, something I am sure they are all too cognizant about and will protect their self interests by means of self preservation.
Thanks for sharing you family experience with me, it sounds like you have a pretty reasonable view on things with rewarded happy life of diversity in your extended family. Sounds pretty cool that your kids are also doing well and becoming successful and that you are a proud father. We should all be lucky to have parents like you.
Personally, I believe in free association. I also think there is a war on white people and that our youngest generation of sons seem unwilling to stand up for themselves on this issue.
I am pretty much that way too, which is why I donât submit to celebrating what the Killer did in New Zealand by shooting all those people. It goes against my moral code. Yeah sure I get frustrated and may have expressed the need to ammo up from time to time, but really deep down inside, its simply not who I am, as I am life affirmative. Live and let live! Regardless of my disdain for the ideology of Islam, the people who practice it, have the right to choose their beliefs, so long as they donât infringe upon my freedoms in doing so. I know in many instances now, especially within certain cultures today where we are seeing quite of bit violence and a creeping encroachment on our rights is where policy has to determine what course we take. Now I am not saying that a person or Government body shouldnât use deadly force when threatened by a Muslim or adverse immigration invasion, but what I am saying we shouldnât be actively pursuing a violent means to exact our revenge. All that does is promotes further animosity and conflicts. We need to hold our elected officials for putting forth such foolish policies ahead of its people accountable. In other words there is a right way and a wrong way to doing things. You wonât have the high moral ground if you submit to the same as your enemies actions.
My biggest concern with the youth today is that they lost all function of critical thinking because their smart phones impairs their natural cognitive skill, and they read too many things on the internet that they believe as being true and thus give into extreme views in how they perceive the world around them. As a result have become rather nihilistic in their over all disposition on life itself as its pretty evident here on this thread and in other places. I simply refuse to give into nihilistic views, cynicism, and animosity towards groups of people. Its a very negative cause to give into and I will always advocate against such views, because in the end you still have to face yourself and take ownership of your words and actions. I know I donât want to live in the world where I have to always pack heat, but it has now gotten to that point. Sad to say, its not getting better, but I can continue to hold my views towards the light and advocate a more positive discourse in resolving our problems. We always carry our Karma wherever we go, in this life and into the next!
There are still good people in the world and we shouldnât forsake what we find redeemable in exchange for division, hate, and animosity. We should be fighting for what is good and in the end that is what will ultimately win out. At least that is what I hope until my last dying breath!
Nothing Heretical about it and itâs well documented in their writings.
The âTea Taxâ was a small part of the whole problem, read our Declaration of Independence" sometime.
No magic needed, God is real, magic is not.
Of course he did. The more divided this nation becomes the more it requires an ever stronger and more centralized govât to keep it together. The ultimate goal of democrats is absolutely control over every person and every state.
They would do away with states rights completely if they could along with most of the rest of the BOR as both are an impediment to their desire for ultimate power.