Which has what exactly to do with this conversation?
He stiffed those he owed and did so intentionally even absent bankruptcy.
https://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/jose-lambiet/article91353232.html
it has plenty to do with the conversation, which is why I asked the question if you know the difference and what exactly did Trump file?
Which was it Chapter 7 or 11?
But since you wont answer it I will
He filed 6 chapter 11’s
if he filed 6 chapter 7’s, I would agree with you about stiffing people, but a restructure only means many investors took a haircut, that is the risk of investing.
now as in for you cherry picking silly things , some frivolous , some not even relevant.
Do I question some of Trump’s business dealings? as a businessman yes I do, did it cost me any money? no
Did it cost the taxpayers ?here and there and a bit, but less than that leach Bill and Hillary Clinton and that other useless ex president Barrack I used to be Barry Obama.
I can excuse Jimmy Carter because he a least has made amends and has done good things since his post presidency and the fact that I was shocked to read that when he travels he travels by commercial not a private jet on the tax payers dime
But back to Trump, you just showed us your ignorance and hatred TWR, its okay to hate Trump, what isnt okay is to be hypocritical
“Cherry Picking”? How is quoting specific instances where he flat out screwed contractors and employees, “Cherry Picking”?
In the interview, Trump repeatedly said the cases were “a long time ago.” However, even as he campaigns for the presidency, new cases are continuing. Just last month, Trump Miami Resort Management LLC settled with 48 servers at his Miami golf resort over failing to pay overtime for a special event. The settlements averaged about $800 for each worker and as high as $3,000 for one, according to court records. Some workers put in 20-hour days over the 10-day Passover event at Trump National Doral Miami, the lawsuit contends. Trump’s team initially argued a contractor hired the workers, and he wasn’t responsible, and counter-sued the contractor demanding payment.
“Trump could have settled it right off the bat, but they wanted to fight it out, that’s their M.O.” said Rod Hannah, of Plantation, Fla., the lawyer who represented the workers, who he said are forbidden from talking about the case in public. “They’re known for their aggressiveness, and if you have the money, why not?”
Similar cases have cropped up with Trump’s facilities in California and New York, where hourly workers, bartenders and wait staff have sued with a range of allegations from not letting workers take breaks to not passing along tips to servers. Trump’s company settled the California case, and the New York case is pending.
I can do this all day and all night so you’d be best off quitting now.
Duh, If he didn’t have any complaints I would question it and him, when you’ve been in business for over 50 years, you will have some lawsuits.
Can you find one successful company or self made person that hasn’t been sued, complained it, written badly about ?
Not just complaints, proven facts.
In addition to the lawsuits, the review found more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s. The liens range from a $75,000 claim by a Plainview, N.Y., air conditioning and heating company to a $1 million claim from the president of a New York City real estate banking firm. On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing.
During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah’s at Trump Plaza.
The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.
Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.
This was a chosen pattern of behavior.
a chosen path of behavior for all of his companies?
surely you must have pages and pages and pages of this practice right?
While I may not agree with some of his business practices none of it has anything to do with his presidency .
Where did I say it has anything to do with the job he’s doing as president?
Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages.
As I said, I can do this all day and all night so perhaps you’d like to quit now?
He even screwed his own hourly workers at the bottom of the totem pole, the people he later declared to be “The Forgotten Man and Woman” he championed.
In the interview, Trump repeatedly said the cases were “a long time ago.” However, even as he campaigns for the presidency, new cases are continuing. Just last month, Trump Miami Resort Management LLC settled with 48 servers at his Miami golf resort over failing to pay overtime for a special event. The settlements averaged about $800 for each worker and as high as $3,000 for one, according to court records. Some workers put in 20-hour days over the 10-day Passover event at Trump National Doral Miami, the lawsuit contends. Trump’s team initially argued a contractor hired the workers, and he wasn’t responsible, and counter-sued the contractor demanding payment.
Im challenging you regarding Trump, you hate the man, andyou are the worst kind of hypocrite
you want to bring up every little bad thing about Trump, and that is your right
but if you can do that why cant you do that with the Democrats, how many democrats have done the same thing or worse.
hypocrite.
We’re not discussing democrats here, the conversation is solely about trump.
I have no love whatsoever for he democrats.
This isn’t about “hate” it’s about facts and the fact is he screwed numerous people intentionally from low level hourly employees to contractors, broker, suppliers, and distributors as a pattern of conduct in business.
There is no excusing it, hiding it, or burying it, it’s part of who the man is and always has been.
I support him as president but I won’t pretend he’s a good man or attack others for pointing out that he’s not.
you dont have any love for the Democrats? okayyyyyyy
But back to Trump, so you hate the guy because you found some unscrupulous business practice, so I ask you again
Read it slowly this time.
Do you have a link to all of his business practices from the 1970’s on that he ripped off the public in all of his business practices.
he has owned over 500 companies, 200 which uses his name.
So can you come up with 250 bad business deals where he has ripped off the public, that would be 50%
present some of these “facts” you are so keen about presenting
And as a human being the man is a terrible person with little morals, but so has other Presidents so why pick on him?
“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”
―Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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What ridiculous attempt to move the bar. It wouldn’t even be possible to produce a list of every company he ever did business with.
What I can show is a pattern of conduct over decades of screwing employees, contractors, sub contractors, and vendors out of what they were owed.
Real estate broker Rana Williams, who said she had sold hundreds of millions of dollars in Manhattan property for Trump International Realty over more than two decades with the company, sued in 2013 alleging Trump shorted her $735,212 in commissions on deals she brokered from 2009 to 2012. Williams, who managed as many as 16 other sales agents for Trump, said the tycoon and his senior deputies decided to pay her less than her contracted commission rate “based on nothing more than whimsy.”
Trump and Williams settled their case in 2015, and the terms of the deal are confidential, as is the case in dozens of other settlements between plaintiffs and Trump companies.
However, Williams’ 2014 deposition in the case is not sealed. In her sworn testimony, Williams said the 2013 commission shortage wasn’t the only one, and neither was she the only person who didn’t get fully paid. “There were instances where a sizable commission would come in and we would be waiting for payment and it wouldn’t come,” she testified. “That was both for myself and for some of the agents.”
Another broker, Jennifer McGovern, filed a similar lawsuit against the now-defunct Trump Mortgage LLC in 2007, citing a six-figure commission on real-estate sales that she said went unpaid. A judge issued a judgment ordering Trump Mortgage to pay McGovern $298,274.
Now, as I said, you really should quit because I can do this all day and all night long.
Anytime you think you can dispute the facts as I present them saddle up and give it your best ride.
Well you are the one that said it’s his normal practice so back it up, certainly one of your left wing anti trump sites put something together right?
So show us this pattern TWR, you’ve posted a few cases you got from your anti trump sites.
is this where I’m supposed go boo hoo hoo because you believe your own nonsense? what Im seeing here is pure hypocrisy and I’m calling you out on it
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I can keep showing example after example spanning decades, that is a clear pattern of conduct by definition.
Edward Friel, of the Philadelphia cabinetry company allegedly shortchanged for the casino work, hired a lawyer to sue for the money, said his son, Paul Friel. But the attorney advised him that the Trumps would drag the case out in court and legal fees would exceed what they’d recover.
The unpaid bill took a huge chunk out of the bottom line of the company that Edward ran to take care of his wife and five kids. “The worst part wasn’t dealing with the Trumps,” Paul Friel said. After standing up to Trump, Friel said the family struggled to get other casino work in Atlantic City. “There’s tons of these stories out there,” he said.
The Edward J. Friel Co. filed for bankruptcy on Oct. 5, 1989.
Says the founder’s grandson: “Trump hits everybody.”
By the way, you haven’t and can’t demonstrate any hypocrisy on my part anywhere here nor can you dispute any of the facts I’ve presented.
Sure I have, Ive asked you to name one business that hasn’t had negative press or been sued.
You haven’t answered… oh wait , you replied it isn’t relevant or what does it have to do with the conservation, to which I replied yes it does
Anyways you found a few cases from your anti Trump site,and I will continue to say so what?
No business or business person is perfect, not even Warren Buffett
But that isnt good enough for you Anti Trump guys
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You keep dragging red herrings around and expecting me to follow them.
What you can’t dispute is that he has a decades long record of screwing the people who worked for him, contractors, subcontractors, and suppliers by refusing to pay what he owed them.
As long as you keep going I’ll keep posting more examples.
Donald J. Trump employed a crew of 200 undocumented Polish workers who worked in 12-hour shifts, without gloves, hard hats or masks, to demolish the Bonwit Teller building on Fifth Avenue, where the 58-story, golden-hued Trump Tower now stands.
The workers were paid as little as $4 an hour for their dangerous labor, less than half the union wage, if they got paid at all.
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The documents show that Mr. Trump paid a total of $1.375 million to settle the case, known as Hardy v. Kaszycki, with $500,000 of it going to a union benefits fund and the rest to pay lawyers’ fees and expenses. According to the documents, one of the union lawyers involved asked the judge to ensure “prompt payment” from Mr. Trump, suggesting “within two weeks after the settlement date.”
Trump didn’t just get sued, he got nailed time and again for cheating people and businesses.
please keep going , that is the thing with you Trump haters you bring up nonsense, you expect a guy that owned over 500 companies that he escaped litigation?
Ive already said a few hundred times, Ive questioned his business practices, Im sure I didnt say that in swahili or speaking in tongues.
I know he has been sued a number of times, but that is what to be expected when you have hundreds of companies.
Im just questioning your hypocrisy , you claim you are a democrat so I will take you at your word, but you seem to be critical of Trump when most business men have done the exact same thing and suffered Lawsuits, litigation , im sure some bankruptcies, infidelity, etc.
You’re just making shit up out of hole cloth now. I’ve never, not once in my life claimed to be a democrat.
As for the claim that most businessmen have a proven record of conduct spanning decades of refusing to pay their employees, contractors, subcontractors, and suppliers what is owed it’s just pure BS.
As long as you keep beating this dead mule though I’ll keep posting examples.
Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages.
In addition to the lawsuits, the review found more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s. The liens range from a $75,000 claim by a Plainview, N.Y., air conditioning and heating company to a $1 million claim from the president of a New York City real estate banking firm. On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing.
Let me be clear so you won’t make the mistake again. I’m not tied to either the republican or democratic parties, I vote for people based on principle, their proven principles and mine irrespective of party affiliation.
I will vote for the most conservative candidate on the ballot for every race unless I simply cannot do so based on principle.
Clear enough?