Weather is not climate

Just as progs like to say Nikolay Chernyshevsky’s socialist battle cry “The worse, the better”, I think they have found another saying they like just as much.

“The colder, the warmer”

“Yeah yeah… the colder it is, the warmer it is. Everyone knows this. Yeah … yeah…!!! Covfefe.”

The most ridiculous result of alarmist propaganda is that there are now explanations out there that purport to show that global warming is causing the cold in continental US. But wait… I thought it was just weather. Ya know the cold weather is just weather… has nothing to do with climate. I think that the progs did not coordinate the narrative on this one. One group of progs is saying it is evidence of climate change. Another group of progs saying its just weather and has nothing to do with climate.

Get it together clowns.

This topic is way above your head. Stop while you are behind. Btw changes in CLIMATE can affect the WEATHER patterns around the world. How is this that hard to understand.

If the climate in the North Pole… warms… and melts glaciers… that cool the Atlantic Ocean and/or raise water levels… that could effect the weather in Miami. Over time it could also adjust the CLIMATE around Miami too. It is a SYSTEM. NOTHING is independent.

As a systems engineer, I know this better than you do. And that is exactly why I call you on your bullshit.

You cite elevated temperatures as evidence of climate change but cite the ho hum “it’s just weather” when the temperatures fall in massive areas of the globe.
You have no clue as to cause and effect. You look at two effects and … duh… think that one of them must be the cause of the other. Then you pick one that is consistent with your narrative.

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Are you saying that because the globe is warming (average global temperature) that we can’t possibly colder winters in some areas?

If this is what you are saying… you might want to stick to system engineering and leave climate science to actual scientist.

How about this, Hashtag:

I’m saying that it is just as likely that whatever is the cause of warming in part A of the globe, is the cause of cooling in part B of the globe. It’s a system Dude… remember?

And BTW… this system has proven itself to be stable with a number of negative feedback mechanisms to handle such things as slight changes in atmospheric composition.

You know what else affects the climate? The Earth’s rotational axis. It’s why we have seasons. What does man have to do with that? Absolutely nothing.

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/seasons/en/

https://www.heartland.org/multimedia/videos-climate-change/man-caused-global-warming-the-greatest-scam-in-world-history

Some more people who don’t agree with the concensus.

Average over what timescale, a minute, a day? Perhaps it is warming from one minute to the next. Now average it over 300 years plus, compare it to the previous 300 years, then the 300 years before that and you may start to have a case.

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Colder ocean water reduces the likelihood of severe hurricanes and tropical storms.

Stop trying to condescend, you’ve already proven to not even have a basic understanding of the topic.

We’re not even as warm right now as it was during the “climate optimum” period that brought the world out of the Dark Ages.

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Let’s see if you are capable of a few straight answers.

Give us the high temperatures on today’s date from the following cities 500, 1000, and 5000 years ago.

Los Angeles

Denver

NYC

London England.

Durban South Africa.

Yaound’e Cameroon.

Moscow Russia.

McMurdo Station Antarctica.

Sydney Australia.

Also, what were the hottest and coldest days in each of those years and what were those temps in each of those cities on that date.

Cite your sources.

Then compare it to the same periods during each of the last three inter-glacial periods.

If the current warming is due to increases in CO2 from fossil fuels use it should be easy to demonstrate it with such a comparison. We should be dramatically warmer today than during each similar period from the past.

We also then have to ignore eccentricities in the earth’s orbit to fabricate the “man made climate change” theory.

The best one I heard was from a “winter storm expert” Judah Cohen (one of Magog’s evil ■■■■ :wink: ) who said: “A blast warm air from misplaced Moroccan heat last month made the normally super chilly air temperatures above the North Pole rapidly increase, splitting the polar vortex into pieces, which then started to wander.” :smile:

Right, we are too stupid to understand. But it’s obvious that you do … when it suits your agenda it’s climate; when it doesn’t it’s weather.

You have zero knowledge of the education, experience and background of your fellow posters in this Forum. Stop acting like you alone know the facts and the truth on the subject and maybe we can have a reasonable conversation.

I don’t need to. I am not a scientist. If you know more than 80-90% of climate scientists the send me a link to your peer reviewed research.

I am listening to the smart people in the room, not you. You aren’t a climate scientist… hell you barely know anything about the majority of topics you comment on (although you think you are an expert on everything… where I have seen this before? Hmm)

Amen brother… You have the faith of Abraham.

BTW… I thought you said you were some kind of genetics scientist. But I knew it was an exaggeration. Test tube cleaner, yes. Scientist, no.

Link to me saying any of that… otherwise stop lying. Why can’t we have a discussion without resorting to lying.

What is it about “climate scientists must not refute the AGW premise or they will lose their jobs” that you don’t understand?

I love irony. :grin:

Go ahead, give it a try.

You still believe that debunked stat?