Trump closing border with Mexico

South Dakota, Sweet grass Country!

No, LouMan. People like Dave cannot see outside of their own personal bubble.

I have never been hurt or affected by an illegal alien but my heart breaks for the ones left behind who have.

I can understand what it must be like to have a loved one torn away forever over the foolishness of something that was 100% preventable. If it could happen to them, it could happen to me. It could happen to you. It could happen to Dave.

There is a lot in this life we cannot control. Yet, we are not controlling that which can be controlled. And that is the source of the outrage.

People like Dave are not going to care unless it affects them personally. Only then do the blinders come off and they have a lifetime of guilt to live with for not listening or paying attention to what others have been trying to tell them.

Fortunately for them and their ilk, people like us are fighting to keep their lives safe. Hate Trump or not. He is trying to do the same thing.

Right on. My dad used to do mule hunting trips out there when i was younger

Like this story? its not related to illegal immigration but the heart break loss of a loved one is felt and real when reading this story!

https://www.wltx.com/article/news/local/usc-student-got-into-wrong-car-was-kidnapped-and-killed-by-suspect-police-say/101-ac57b6fd-702f-43fd-a4c6-5e1ddcbc02a7

Just goes to show how long the problem has been going on, Dave. It was relevant then, it is even more relevant now.

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I dont deny that horrible things can happen, maybe at the hands of an illegal. But to make that kind of argument is as bad as the accusations many of you throw at liberals, pleading with emotions. Lets not be hypocrites, and back up our arguments with facts and sources.

One story, as tragic as it may be, does not support the argument.
Its horrible, and my heart goes out to the family.

Any citizen harmed by violence or theft or fraud or undeserved freebies by any illegal is the only fact that matters.

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My heart breaks every day, just watching the news. We are horrible, awful people, some of us. If i can go a day without crying for some family that lost their kids due to a needless crime or accident, its rare.

I already stated that is wasn’t committed by an illegal alien! I was posting it because people who have lost loved ones as a result of the Illegal Aliens have to go through a similar grief!

I saw that, and i know. You kind of supported my point though. Horrible shit happens at the hands of all kinds of people.
I honestly hate watching the news, because theres always some murder, or some body found, or some powerful person indicted of rape. People’s capability of evil are not tied to their nationality or legal status.

Not really. There is overwhelming proof that crimes committed by Illegal aliens is unprecedented. Including Police officers that are being shot. Sorry but I don’t share that view with you. Its a major problem and it needs to be addressed. The Southern Border is a full blown crisis and if you can not admit that in which everyone here is arguing with you about then I can not help you see that!

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True story, Dr. M.

I actually sat up one night and giggled my ass off watching him. Still, he had to be taught a lesson. Mommy said you can’t do that and Mommy always means what she says. There will be consequences. :smirk:

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Ok, can you provide some sources for that at least?

Oh…kay. is that supposed to be a joke?

People already did provide sources for that. I created another thread way before you did that has plenty of links and info on that.

Which thread? I will go look

That is funny! Yes there is a lesson in that story for sure!

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And thus lies your disconnect. It can’t happen to you therefore it doesn’t exist outside of statistical numbers.

Thing is Dave. It can happen to you. It can happen to a loved one. And it is 100% preventable.

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“Southern Border Crisis,” another one is “Should Trump Shut Down the Southern Border”

You really should read the headers here before creating another thread on virtually the same topic and it should have been flagged.