There is No Gay (Homosexual) Gene!

This is just in, according to a new comprehensive research study that was completed, scientist conclude that there is no gay gene.

So, what happens when science proves that homosexuals aren’t “born that way”? Perhaps we’ll find out. A new [comprehensive scientific study of the biological roots of sexual orientation] released Thursday proved that there no “gay gene” and that genetic factors are insignificant in determining sexual orientation.

Excerpt from the article:

The research, which analyzed data on DNA and sexual experiences from almost half a million people, found there are thousands of genetic variants linked to same-sex sexual behavior, most with very small effects.

Five of the genetic markers were “significantly” associated with same-sex behavior, the researchers said, but even these are far from being predictive of a person’s sexual preferences.

“We scanned the entire human genome and found a handful - five to be precise - of locations that are clearly associated with whether a person reports in engaging in same-sex sexual behavior,” said Andrea Ganna, a biologist at the Institute of Molecular Medicine in Finland who co-led the research.

Ha ha! I am going to be laughing my head off just reading the LBGTQ’s reaction to this research study as they try desperately to perform mental gymnastics in attacking this latest find! Victory for the pro-creators!

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If it isn’t genetic then it must be a lifestyle choice. QED. A sort of ‘Whatever floats your boat’? :smile:

I guess it isn’t bigoted now to go back to calling same-sex sodomy a lifestyle choice.

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I know that gay men have different hormone averages to heterosexual men I do not want to go down the conspiracy theory road but maybe there is something in the food or water that is affecting men’s hormones and producing more homosexual :rainbow_flag::rainbow_flag::rainbow_flag:

Gay men on average have more narrow faces which is a sign of low testosterone they have longer fingers than straight men which again is something to do with testosterone and an average penis size which is half an inch longer than heterosexual men I do not believe being gay is a lifestyle choice. gay men are physically different to straight men their hormone averages are different as well there is definitely something in the water food or modern lifestyle which is leading to more homosexuals

Whatever. I just cannot see ramming my schwanstuker into a loaded colon; or for that matter, even an empty colon. I cut to the chase. Now, in the gay community, does the oral sex begin before or after the anal sex? My skin is now crawling.

There’s also a horse and cart issue there: we know different activities can influence body chemistry … maybe doing the activity causes the measured changes?

Soyboys?

20 letters.

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The fact that homosexual men have a different bone structure in their face and fingers would heavily imply that these changes are happening through puberty when most people are not sexually active also these changes are linked to having low testosterone but the receiver of anal sex actually has a testosterone boost

I think your analysis is wrong

Brain scans have provided the most compelling evidence yet that being gay or straight is a biologically fixed trait.

The scans reveal that in gay people, key structures of the brain governing emotion, mood, anxiety and aggressiveness resemble those in straight people of the opposite sex.

The differences are likely to have been forged in the womb or in early infancy, says Ivanka Savic, who conducted the study at the Karolinska Institutein Stockholm, Sweden.

“This is the most robust measure so far of cerebral differences between homosexual and heterosexual subjects,” she says.

Previous studies have also shown differences in brain architecture and activity between gay and straight people, but most relied on people’s responses to sexuality driven cues that could have been learned, such as rating the attractiveness of male or female faces.

Brain symmetry

To get round this, Savic and her colleague, Per Lindström, chose to measure brain parameters likely to have been fixed at birth.

“That was the whole point of the study, to show parameters that differ, but which couldn’t be altered by learning or cognitive processes,” says Savic.

First they used MRI scans to find out the overall volume and shapes of brains in a group of 90 volunteers consisting of 25 heterosexuals and 20 homosexuals of each gender.

The results showed that straight men had asymmetric brains, with the right hemisphere slightly larger – and the gay women also had this asymmetry. Gay men, meanwhile, had symmetrical brains like those of straight women.

The team next used PET scans to measure blood flow to the amygdala, part of the brain that governs fear and aggression. The images revealed how the amygdala connected to other parts of the brain, giving clues to how this might influence behaviour.

Depression link

They found that the patterns of connectivity in gay men matched those of straight women, and vice versa (see image, above right). In straight women and gay men, the connections were mainly into regions of the brain that manifest fear as intense anxiety.

“The regions involved in phobia, anxiety and depression overlap with the pattern we see from the amygdala,” says Savic.

This is significant, she says, and fits with data showing that women are three times as likely as men to suffer from mood disorders or depression. Gay men have higher rates of depression too, she says, but it’s difficult to know whether this is down to biology, homophobia or simply feelings of being “different”.

In straight men and lesbians, the amygdala fed its signals mainly into the sensorimotor cortex and the striatum, regions of the brain that trigger the “fight or flight” response. “It’s a more action-related response than in women,” says Savic.

‘Striking differences’

“This study demonstrates that homosexuals of both sexes show strong cross-sex shifts in brain symmetry,” says Qazi Rahman, a leading researcher on sexual orientation at Queen Mary college, University of London, UK.

“The connectivity differences reported in the amygdala are striking.”

“Paradoxically, it’s more informative to look at things that have no direct connection with sexual orientation, and that’s where this study scores,” says Simon LeVay, a prominent US author who in 1991 reported finding differences(pdf) in a part of the brain called the hypothalamus between straight and gay men.

But as Savic herself acknowledges, the study can’t say whether the brain differences are inherited, or result from abnormally high or low exposure in the womb to sex hormones such as testosterone.

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I found the gay jean… it obviously exists.

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Honestly, it doesn’t matter if it’s choice or not. It’s a free country and you have the right to do whatever makes you happy, so long as it’s with another consenting adult. The biggest problem I have is when we start saying it isn’t a choice, what’s the end goal? Is it a choice for a pedophile to be the way he is? I don’t give a damn if it’s a choice or not, it’s an infringement on the rights of a child, therefore it should come with a lengthy prison sentence.

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I agree there should be a real SERIOUS penalty for pedophiles and rapists.

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Well that must be a huge relief to the gay community.

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Well that’s to suggest that a person can’t do anything to change it, and therefore should be normalized and afforded societal benefits that parallel what is considered normal and gets encouraged by social bennies (because those normal behaviors advance society – such as the ongoing propagation of the population.)

I don’t begrudge anyone having the right to “do”. (Whatever they want to do – provided it doesn’t harm society.) But I sure as hell don’t support benefiting or encouraging things that do not provide a benefit to society in return.

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Cue Emily Litella rant on psycho the rapists.

I don’t think we should encourage ANYTHING with tax dollars. Once we cross that line, it’s a slippery damn slope, as we’ve seen. Tax dollars should be reserved to Constitutional spending such as infrastructure, defense and justice. Where we went off the rails is granting benefits for “preferred behavior” that is “good for society”. My opinion is that if it’s good for society, it’s good for people and you don’t have to subsidize it. :wink:

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The alphabet people that get “Civil Rights” protections based upon immutable characteristics won’t like these findings very much, despite the fact the researchers are trying to back off this clear result and implication.

Proving that behaviors or attitudes are genetically determined is, I expect, a very difficult if not impossible task. It’s pretty reasonable to assume that being attracted to the opposite sex is genetically based, instinct. That’s the one purpose in life that can’t be disputed - procreation. It’s also not a big leap of faith to think that being attracted to the same sex is at least somewhat based in the DNA - not wanting to chase the opposite sex is an unusual variation that likely has some sort of genetic basis. Most of us would not consider for one moment chasing the same sex - I can only speak for myself but it doesn’t matter how attractive Brad Pitt is to women, he’s not attractive to me. Men who do look at him and see a hunk to chase have something else fundamentally different going on. Just because they can’t find it in DNA analysis doesn’t mean it’s not there. There’s lots of things that the best scientists can’t figure out.

N-o-o-o-o-o, I’ve just seen my breakfast again! I can scarcely believe anyone would even think of doing such a weird thing, never mind actually do it. I’d sooner have all my fingernails drawn and I mean that!