The Rabbit Hole

Jogging, so called, is very unhealthy.
If somebody insists on it, tell him or her at least to wear shoes with soft soles and not to run on a hard surface.

If you wear hard soles and run on concrete or asphalt, the shock of landing on your heels will be directly transmitted to your internal organs and brain through the leg bones and vertebrae. This will greatly damage (the arteries among other things in) the organs.

Four legged animals don’t have this problem because, when they run, they land on their front legs which are connected to the scapula or shoulder blade, surrounded by muscles and acting like a shock-absorber

You don’t land on your heels. That is not how you run. You land forefoot or midfoot.

This summer I really haven’t done much. Kids have been off for 2 months and we’ve been out of the country for a lot of that time. They are back at school this week and I am so looking forward to getting back into the groove! I actually lose weight when I don’t exercise - it’s muscle loss. At the moment I am at my lowest of 51kg. When I start with the running and cycling again, I’ll expect to be just over 52kg.

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Have you tried?
You land on one bone or another.
No, you don’t land on your toes when you run.

The big toe, on the other hand (No pun intended), has a lot to do with human bipedal locomotion and became “big”

The jury is still out on whether you need expensive running shoes to “run”

Zola Budd the olympian also competed without shoes

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Why would I want to give myself shin splints and ram on the brakes? :roll_eyes:

I never said you do. You land on the ball of your foot to midfoot.

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I had a long running “injury” from squash. I had twisted my ankle badly, it swelled up to the size of a football and I couldn’t walk properly for 3 weeks. When it healed, it was never quite right. It was weaker than my other ankle and was prone to suddenly twisting. Fast forward some years and I ran with a club. We did a lot of trail, really lumpy terrain. Guess what, after all those years, my ankle got as strong as the other one in a matter of a couple of weeks. Your joints and bones adapt. Any form of resistance exercise makes them stronger, not weaker.

The video Alex posted above

To paraphrase:
Take rats and put them in a boring situation. With cocaine. They become addicted.

Take the same rat out, back in with other rats who do rat things and they become involved back in life and ignore the cocaine.

Perhaps people have levels of say, dopamine, that they cannot get into balance naturally so have to pursue outside the bounds of those that do?.

Yep fully agree, just find the right sporting activity that doesn’t agravate an injury to much and healing time will be improved. When I was a mere boy I had a substantial folder of x-rays for broken and fractured bones and injuries. I never listened to any advice on taking it easy from the hospital, as an example at 6 I continued playing football in the playground at school within 2 daysafter having my cast on for a broken ankle.
Fast forward 26 years and I broke my tib and fib playing football. This time I listened to the hospital and rested whilst in a full leg cast. After three months there was virtually no bone re-growth, so the consultant put on a cast upto my knee and told me to “give it some stick”. His words exactly, he was the local rugby team consultant. 2 days later my tib broke again in the cast but then it preceded to heal in 3 months simply because I was walking and working with the cast on.
That taught me all I needed to know, I had always healed really fast due to not stopping activities and I always advise everyone else to do the same.

This is true. The man who started the jogging craze was found dead at the side of the road. He died of a heart attack whilst performing his daily jog.

Further to the ‘hard landing’ aspect, your legs are only straight when walking, and then only if you are tired and trying to walk with minimal energy. When running your legs are bent so there is no or minimal shock transmission through the hip joints.

One is also airborne (figuratively) when running. An amount of time is spent with both feet off the ground. The leading foot touches down seeking purchase to maintain the thrust. Less so when jogging.

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There’s a difference between an obsession and an addiction…and addictions can be natural, physical or mental.

Nicotine and drugs can be both physical and mental.

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So obvious (to me at least) that I land on my heel when I run or jog, after both feet leave the ground and become airborne.

I have no training in sports and nobody every told me where to land.

I seem to land on the front part of the foot (whether it’s toes or ball, makes little difference if I wear shoes) when I walk and suddenly see a frog or anything I don’t want to step into and make a long stride.

I checked the Internet and realized that trained athletes land on different parts of the foot, and if you’re bare footed, it’s different too.

…and from that video we have this examination of posture and running. It boils do to; thew longer we expect to be running the less desirable is anything other than a ‘mid-foot’ landing.

Remember Chris Froome’s horror smash shortly before the Tour de France?

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If you heel strike, it also means you are leaning back and hence putting the brakes on, especially true when running downhill. You want to be leaning forward. Running should be like controlled falling - you step forward to prevent yourself doing a face plant. :wink:

Most of the running I do is on trail and soft ground. There really is very little impact even if you do heel strike. You are more likely to sink.

Humans are designed for long distance running. It is our only physical advantage over other animals, that we have a very efficient cooling system (sweat all over). We basically chase them till they collapse from heat exhaustion.

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I hate to contract, but this is what I heard in my anthropology days.

Sweating hardly cools the body, given the amount of liquid we lose. A slight perspiration might cool the skin, but not beads of sweat that run down the body.

In the animal kingdom, what really determines the predator/prey fate is how FAST you sprint in a very short amount of time, usually a few minutes or even seconds. Yes, some prey animals, etc., seem to outrun the lion, but they run very, very fast until the lion gives up.

What four-legged animal predators can we outrun?
I can’t even think of any.
On the reverse side, we can’t catch rabbits.

There is something very fishy about the Darwinian evolutionary scheme.

It is a darn sight more efficient than panting and having a body covered in fur.

Did you know a human can outrun a horse over a marathon on a hot day? YouTube Man vs. Horse. It is an annual event in Wales and sometimes man wins.

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See, we don’t need guns. We need politicians and pigs with balls.

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You know, in the predator/prey relationship, what determines their fate is how fast they can sprint in the crucial seconds, and not how FAR they can run.

Marathon is not realistic in nature.
Only one animal gets engaged in that kind of stupid running match. Humans.