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Iā€™ll be very surprised if Desantis doesnā€™t run. Heā€™s shown that heā€™s got the chops, and people such as him donā€™t stop when itā€™s a serious possibility - theyā€™ve been aiming for it their whole lives. Iā€™ll also be surprised if Trump does run. Heā€™s less predictable, but I expect that he knows that his novelty has worn off and heā€™d be squandering a large amount of his own money. Heā€™ll bask for awhile in the glory of adulation from swooners like jittsy, then run out of money, piss of his most loyal allies and fizzle out.

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Is there anyone on this site that has a clue? I feel like Iā€™m the only one.

Remember, the deep state was only able to pull off that rigged election because of the Obama Virus (some called it Covid), which opened a lot of doors to mail in voting. If you want to worry about something, worry about the circle-the-firing-squad attitude of the Republican Party. They seem more willing to fight each other than tear into the goose steppers in the Democrat Klan.
We know Trump would do what he did before, with the executive orders. In six months, inflation would be gone and gas prices would easily drop a dollar a gallon.
Donā€™t necessarily count DeSantis out as an effective leader. You ought to see the stuff heā€™s doing here in Florida, all those anti-Woke laws that are sailing through the legislature and have the goose steppersā€™s panties in such a twist. Who could know that lefties feel so strong about homosexual indoctrination of Kindergarteners, or pushing Black Queer studies to elementary schools?

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It would be disastrous for Ron DeSantis to run against Trump if he loses. It would hurt his chances in 28ā€¦ he needs to look strong until 28.

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And this is why Trump will never be elected as president. Instead of addressing the issues we face today, he attacks a competitor,

Trump Unloads on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis

Mon, Jan 30, 2023

Former President Donald Trump unloaded with both barrels on Ron DeSantis early Monday morning, accusing the Florida Governor of being a ā€œglobalistā€ and ā€œunapologetically shutting down Florida and its beaches.ā€

ā€œRon DeSanctimonious, who I made Governor in BOTH the Primary & the General, is also a Globalist, & so are his donors,ā€ Trump told followers on his Truth Social platform. ā€œJeb ā€˜Low Energyā€™ Bush was next to him last week. Check PAST!ā€ Bush, the former Governor of Florida, was seated near DeSantis during his inauguration earlier in January.

Trump also criticized DeSantisā€™ COVID response, something that has earned him praise amongst many conservatives.

ā€œThe revelations about Ron DeSanctimonious doing FAR WORSE than many other Republican governors, including that he unapologetically shut down Florida and its beaches, was interesting, indeed,ā€ Trump wrote. ā€œDJT leading BIG!!!ā€

Trumpā€™s criticism of DeSantisā€™s brief closing of beaches in Florida is receiving some pushback. While Governor DeSantis was reopening beaches in April of 2020, Trump was criticizing Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, who was reopening hair and nail salons, barbershops, gyms, tattoo parlors and bowling alleys of his state at the same time.

ā€œI told the governor of Georgia Brian Kemp that I disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase one guidelines,ā€ Trump said at a White House coronavirus task force press briefing on April 22, 2020. During that same briefing, Trump threatened to intervene if Kemp stepped ā€œout of lineā€ with his administrationā€™s guidelines.

ā€œ[I]f I see something totally egregious, totally out of line, Iā€™ll do (something),ā€ Trump told the press

A complete and total AZZWIPE. Much like his die hard supporters.

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Ron is going to sell out as soon as he announcesā€¦ he will get investigated until heā€™s dead, if he even tries to fight back . If you fight back, he will be homeless he will not have the money. Trump is the only one who can be independent.

You got the Trumpvid 24 bad, brother!

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If he were to enter the race as Trumpā€™s running mate, that would guarantee his landslide victory in 28. Other than that, we in Florida want him to finish his term as governor and help us elect a successor who wonā€™t undo all the good he has done.

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Its not that simple and canā€™t be summed up to adversarial political ideologies, or tribal politics if you will. Both parties belong to the same social country club (Uniparty) another reason that the Republican party is currently infighting because there are members who are willing to do the peopleā€™s business instead of engaging in the grift that half the party including their bed mates are involved with. No one said it was going to be pretty, in fact it going to get a lot more ugly if allowed to continue with the status quo RINO republicans that a lot of people are fed up with.

Donā€™t get me wrong, I like DeSantis and what he has done with the state of Florida, but being an effective Governor and taking on the swamp as President are two different ball parks, and given DeSantisā€™s donor base, (and yes there are some serious questions who those people are) then I am going to remain skeptical about who he is going to serve should he successfully become the Nomination for the republican party in 2024. The latter is not about if he is electable but selectable because lets face it, rigged elections with the same shenanigans in 2020 will continue until some act of ā€œGodā€ puts an end to it and at this point I am not very optimistic that the country can be saved, especially if we are going to give amnesty to 50 new million illegals. (See France as the model for that outcome and you will see America is not too far behind. ) All the other stuff going is merely bread and circuses for appeasement only, as very little will change when the country is circling the drain.

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Investigated until he is dead is Trump.
Trumps baggage.
Ongoing investigations a few of the ongoing:
January 6 and overturning the election: House select committee and Justice Department
2020 Election: Efforts to overturn Georgia results
Trump Organization: NY AG criminal and civil investigation, The investigation is nearing the end and Jamesā€™ office said it needed to question the Trump family to determine who had responsibility for the financial statements at the center of the investigation. NY office uncovered ā€œsignificantā€ evidence ā€œindicating that the Trump Organization used fraudulent or misleading asset valuations to obtain a host of economic benefits, including loans, insurance coverage and tax deductions.ā€
Trump Organization: NY DA criminal investigation.

Litigation with niece Mary Trump
Trump and his niece Mary are in court over her cut of a 2001 family settlement.
In 2020, Mary Trump sued Trump, his sister Maryanne Trump Barry, a retired judge, and the executor of her late uncle Robert Trumpā€™s estate, alleging ā€œthey designed and carried out a complex scheme to siphon funds away from her interests, conceal their grift, and deceive her about the true value of what she had inherited.ā€

Defamation: Suit over Trumpā€™s denial of rape claims by E. Jean Carroll
Magazine writer E. Jean Carroll alleged Trump raped her in a New York department store dressing room in the mid 1990s and defamed her when he denied the rape, said she was not his type and alleged she made the claim to boost sales of her book.

Michael Cohen: Claims of retaliation against Trump and Barr
Trumpsā€™ former lawyer, Michael Cohen, is suing Trump, former Attorney General William Barr and others, alleging they put him back in jail to prevent him from promoting his upcoming book while under home confinement.

Lawsuits by police officers
Several members of the US Capitol Police and Washington, DC, Metropolitan Police are suing Trump, saying his words and actions incited the riot. Their cases were merged with a similar case filed by Democratic lawmakers.

Peter Strzok lawsuit
Former top FBI counter-intelligence official Peter Strzok, who was terminated by the FBI in 2018 after the revelation of anti-Trump texts Strzok exchanged with a top lawyer at the bureau, Lisa Page, has sued DOJ alleging he was improperly terminated. Strzok is now seeking to depose Trump for the case

Donā€™t forget the 50 mil defamation lawsuit currently against Bob Woodward.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He has to sue when ever possible to pay for all his other ongoing lawsuits. And this is what the extremists want in the WH.

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You donā€™t think they will investigate Ron throwing him in a finical world wind?

Trumps not laughing smiling boy, heā€™s making excuses and taking the 5th.

Or recoup the money he spent on campaigning both in 2020 and the present.

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If DeSantis does the same with illegal aliens as president as he did as Governor, heā€™ll DEPORT those animals before anybody can be the wiser. Maybe send them to France, Norway, or some other socialist welfare country. Or maybe just ship their criminal asses back to their native countries.

Free ride wasnā€™t good enough.

(Breaking News from CBS2 - CBS New York)

Asylum seekers refusing to leave Watson Hotel for shelter at Brooklyn Cruise Terminal cite poor conditions

By Marcia Kramer, Ali Bauman, Zinnia Maldonado

Updated on: January 31, 2023 / 6:37 AM / CBS New York

NEW YORK ā€“ Mayor Eric Adams appears to have another immigration crisis on his hands as single men lodged at a Midtown hotel [have been

reluctant to move to a new facility at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal](Some migrants refuse to leave Midtown's Watson Hotel for Brooklyn Cruise Terminal shelter - CBS New York).

The mayor wants to use the hotel for families.

Itā€™s a problem city officials apparently didnā€™t see coming ā€“ asylum seekers who got used to the privacy of living in a hotel room donā€™t want to move to a congregate shelter where everyone sleeps packed like sardines in a room with 1,000 cots.

This is one of the ways they will always be in a ā€œheads-I win-tails you loseā€ position: the DOJ will probably not contest the claims, give Stzok a bunch of money and apologies, and give a clear sign to those of his ilk: do our (Democrat party) dirty work in the FBI, DOJ, CIA and youā€™ll be generously rewarded, even if you break all kinds of laws. Cross them, and burn at the stake.

If Ron runs on deporting illegals I will vote for him. Fuck trump.

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