The Neo-Cons are trying to Create a Hot War with Russia

When you position your soldiers in civilian infrastructure like a school gymnasium and attack the enemy from that position, you have become a legitimate target. Just as with the mall in Kiev that was housing Ukrainian air defense missiles. You will be targeted……

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Monte, do you believe the videos of destroyed apartment buildings is staged by the U.S Military or Hollywood. Putrid has been embarrassed by Ukrainians stubborn defense, throwing Russias invasion off schedule. Now Ukraine has started an offensive to relieve pressure on important cities.
Putrid will not use any nukes because of the consequences which he won’t live to see anything. Pussyfied NATO shouldhave called his bluf from the start.

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No, are you suggesting that the US military, or Hollywood is operational in Ukraine???

Now, as to Russia’s schedule, please post a link to some reputable source that shows us what Russia’s schedule is.

NATO should have called his bluff from the start huh….:thinking: Well first of all, Putin isn’t setting at his border with his army lined up bluffing, he’s in Ukraine, bombing the hell out of it. He’s got Zelenski begging the US and NATO for a no fly zone, heavier defensive missiles and more MIG’s….

Looks more like Putin is calling bluffs…….

As to NATO doing something. I knew all along you weren’t a law and order guy, unless it suits your agenda. Why does it have to be repeated over and over that Ukraine is NOT A NATO COUNTRY!!!

NATO has no duty or obligation to do anything….it’s quite remarkable that NATO countries are even waging economic warfare on Russia.

If you’re paying any attention at all, this is another thing that Russia and China appear to be pivoting away from as well, the West being able to make country’s do what it wants them to by economic starvation……

If you’re paying attention at all, you know that India is going to buy the Russian oil that the US and our ally’s are boycotting, and they are working on a run around Western sanctions to pay for it. Saudi Arabia is considering accepting the Chinese Yuan for their oil rather than the U.S. dollar……

You’re stuck in the old mindset that america can do whatever it wants to any other country because we’ve got Teddy Roosevelts big stick…….

Those days are gone and a new order of the world is emerging and all you can do is complain because it’s happening like it or not…….

Yep, the US and it’s coalition ally’s used the same cluster bombs during “shock and awe” that Russia is being accused of using today in Ukraine……

New York, December 12, 2003) – Hundreds of civilian deaths in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq could have been prevented by abandoning two misguided military tactics, Human Rights Watch said in a comprehensive new report released today.

The use of cluster munitions in populated areas caused more civilian casualties than any other factor in the coalition´s conduct of major military operations in March and April, Human Rights Watch said. U.S. and British forces used almost 13,000 cluster munitions, containing nearly 2 million submunitions, that killed or wounded more than 1,000 civilians.

https://www.hrw.org/legacy/press/2003/12/us-iraq-press.htm

My evidence is the fact Russia is often shown, on the news, striking hospitals, children’s wards, and other non-military targets that were nowhere near any legitimate targets.

And I will not get into puerile tu quoque arguments with you…

If a country were actually to place its military in a “gymnasium” or a “mall,” it would certainly become a legitimate military target.

But what evidence (from a neutral source) do you have that Ukraine has done this?

You have been shown those images and “told” by the same news that you just 6 weeks ago considered to be fake news. Now suddenly the mainstream news media is pure, just journalism and no more agenda…:roll_eyes:

Ok, well it is your prerogative to believe anything you like and change it to suit your stance, as you’d like I suppose…

Oh, and sense you’re not being shown the legitimate military target that stood just next to the maternity ward, or the legitimate military target that was just inside that maternity ward as either Ukrainian regulars, or even their provocative Azov Battalion, similar to Bush’s Whitewater, had been occupying it as well, or perhaps they had their air defense systems in there, then it can’t be so???

The propaganda war on both sides is pathetic, but it always works because “you only have to fool most of the people some of the time……”

Btw, you’ve never seen a video of “Russia striking a hospital”…… If you have, please post up a video of it.

And don’t post me a video of a building that CNN calls a shopping mall getting hit by something that CNN tells you was a Russian missile, blowing it up.

I’d like to see your video that does not need CNN’s interpretation of its contents. A video that I can view and plainly see that the “Russians” targeted the building, with visible evidence that it was civilian infrastructure, and then fired upon it……

Or from any MSM for that matter……

You’re so F^×king smug, arrogant and ignorant.I suppose the maternity hospital also was a Ukrainian Army barracks or ammo warehouse that made it target or will you say it was" human error".
You’re the ideal propaganda minister for Russia.
I don’t mind these arguments with you because it shows how ignorant you are.

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So now video proof… ok, that’s cool.

Where have I ever used the term “fake news” in regard to the news media?

I do think that most of the media are highly tendentious–leaning to the left–but most of their stories are not “fake,” in my opinion.

And just what is your source indicating that a “legitimate military target…stood just next to the maternity ward, or the legitimate military target…was just inside that maternity ward”?

Is it, perhaps, Pravda?

Or even the Kremlin, itself?

You have–intentionally, I suppose–created a barrier so high that no one could possibly clear it…

Well that’s the point. From the Western press, there is no proof of anything, pictures of a bombed out building prove nothing, claims by the press that it was caused by Russians proves nothing. They get such information from the Ukrainians who are pleading with the world for help, so of course, the more barbaric they can present the Russians the better. And of course you CANNOT provide any evidence that Russia has “targeted” civilians….

If civilian deaths alone are evidence that they were “targeted” then the 200,000 civilians killed in the U.S. led Iraq war were “targeted”……:wink:

When you can “prove” Russians are “targeting” civilians, please do provide it here……

Well, I suppose you would place greater trust in the Russian press than in the “Western” press…

I have already addressed this subject–directly.

I have nothing more to say on this matter.

The snippy and sarcastic response–“C’mon hero, do something…ask your mom to drive you to Ukraine”…appears to assume that Ukraine is in need of more bodies on the ground.

Of course, it is not.

The Ukrainians need more weapons–and not weapons of Joe Biden’s choosing, either–including MiG-29s; S-300 anti-aircraft systems; and even S-400 anti-aircraft systems.

But Biden appears reluctant to sell the Ukrainians what Zelenskyy has actually asked for, and instead just trots out a laundry list of what he (Biden) has chosen to furnish him with…

Not really, nor have I quoted them…

What I have shown however is that the propaganda war is not being fought by Russia alone…

Western media would come on for example during the Iraq invasion and say something like, it’s day 18 of coalition operations in Baghdad and Fallujah and gains are being made against Saddam’s Quds Forces….

In contrast, today you hear it’s day 28 of Putin’s war in Ukraine as he continues his brutal bombing campaign……

That, is propaganda intend to influence the way you, the listener interprets and feels about what’s happening….

In both cases, heavy damage was being done to civilian infrastructure and lives…

But one sounds righteous and legitimate and one sounds evil……:roll_eyes:

Because you have NO EVIDENCE to support your claim… so fine, we’ll leave it there.