The Case for Raising US Tariffs on China After March 1st!

Yes I heard about Cat, but JD? Dam that is a crying shame. There is encouraging news on the steel and aluminum industries in which latest numbers indicate that they are doing well, and the third tier family suppliers is a really good point that you mention, as they have been decimated due to globalism and outsourcing and has really hurt our economy in the broader picture. Wilbur Ross’s latest report on the auto sector which hasn’t been officially released yet has a lot of people up in arms, especially the auto industry executives, and has a lot of members in congress demanding to know whats inside. I suspect he is waiting until the right time to release the official report.

Lol, China has got you by the short and curlies. You got yourself into this mess by buying their cheap stuff in the first place. Then you’re whinging that they are making too much money off you and spending it how they wish. Why didn’t you ensure parity of tariffs before you traded with them?

Me wanting to paint US as bad guy? :joy: Who’s making assumptions now? How many trillions are you in debt? All for cheap shit.

Nope! Just your ignorance I question! Like I said you really don’t know much about the subject matter at hand yet you seem to want to comment on it as if you know what you are talking about! Nice of you to ignore my questions. So much for having a discussion with you as you got to pull out the debt issue as a means to prop up your weak argument? Nice one! Hey Hey Teresa May! Is that you?

As I don’t know the details like you do, I am not allowed an opinion? You know jack squat about the UK, yet that doesn’t stop you spewing your views.

What’s the weather like up there?

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Old thinking. It’s 2019.

You are pathetic! You didn’t come here to express an opinion but to be antagonistic with me, instead of actually having a discussion on the topic. Hence the fact you continue with your BS narrative! Its your MO! Whats the matter, you sexually repressed? Maybe you should rub one out, you might feel better afterwards!

I think you should worry about your own country first before trying to opine on something you have no idea about!

Nope. :grin:

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But there is no other valid opinion, only yours!

Yes you should.

Yes you are! Why do you keep going on about sex?

The interesting thing is that the Chinese really do not have to steal secrets as we willingly transfer the technology to them when we off shore.

One day China will realize that and really come after high tech companies with incentives to move just for their technology.

Apple cannot walk away from manufacturing in China as they have everything to duplicate Apple products today.

Correct, but that is an issue on the negotiating table as in forced technology transfer that the US is demanding that they change in these trade negotiations. I don’t think this will be a continued trend if the US sticks to its demands.

Yeah I am not so sure about that, but will concede if they make a better offer in terms of better incentives for doing so then maybe, but hard for me to speculate on that, when we don’t know what is going to happen with these trade talks. I am frequently discussing China with a leading economist from China, and his views are that China is in some trouble right now, and depending how these talks end up could seriously damage China’s bottom line if these tariffs are to go to 25%.

Its true, but to be honest Apple will survive if they decided to walk away. Apple with their recent release of their new I-phone took heavy loses in the retail sector as the new Huawei phones which are cheaper attracted more buyers. Apple is in the process of moving their operations back to the US with recent announcements in setting up a new plant in Texas, but the problem is they haven’t offered any new features in their latest products, and the quality has gone downhill since outsourcing in China. So if they address these issues, they can easily compete with any Chinese manufactured product as brand alone will still sell, and Chinese are still very loyal to the brand as they also know not to buy their own products in certain things.

The is something to be said about cost vs quality.

I had an android phone for 2 years and junked it as the quality/upgrades was just not there. I converted to a iPhone 5s. I had it for 4 years and it’s still portions and I use it for music today. I could have bought a iPhone 10 but didn’t;t like the price so I opted our for an 8s which has the same processor. Year later it works great and I will probably hold it for the next 3-4 years.

The moral of the story, you can buy a 8s for 600 bucks and have it last for 5 years or buy 2 androids lasting 2-3 years for 600 bucks.

Value of the money over time dictates buy the cheap phone and hope for the best.

FWIW I have had one Android last 6 years and my current one…A CAT S60…is three years young and running strong. These are water and shock resistant with FLIR camera and also about 600.00.

Well they could have, but you see now they have to pay the price for moving manufacturing to China to get around competing with other US companies. Karma is a bitch. If only they had looked at the long term picture instead of focusing on short term gains. Turns out that “free trade” wasn’t exactly free. Oh well.

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Well in another view they did do business with the communists, so the results shouldn’t be surprising for committing corporate treason. When that happens, we all suffer, and shouldn’t be rejoicing an American company’s demise, even though we could care less that its Apple.

I no longer see them as an American company. They sold us out to make a quick buck. Let them enjoy their new friends, the Chinese.

Speaking of retarded we have now come full circle on the “free trade” scam.

The expectation going forward as American companies bring in foreign college graduates for cheap labor, American graduates will be working for foreign companies to compete with them.

There is good news though. Trump is already putting a stop to this.

No wonder they’re trying so hard to get rid of him. He’s just messing up all of their hard work over the past 30 years.

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This is why I don’t buy things made in China, because shit like this can happen! Nike also uses slave labor in North Korea to make their products with a secret deal they have with the communist Chinese party!

Not to mention…

The Nike brand became somewhat controversial following a branding decision by the corporation to support the political efforts of Colin Kaepernick as the face for their products.

Fortunately this was not a serious injury to Williamson other wise I would suspect a lawsuit is forthcoming, which would be poetic justice in a round about way!

This is truly a historical picture in many ways, as the Chinese Dragon Trade delegation have never had to deal with a team of US negotiators that aren’t bought! Truly epic! Literally trillions of dollars are at stake, and there is 9 hours left in this round of talks before increased tariffs are set to kick in March 1st.

Watch and feel the tension!

Ever notice how fast cell phones (tech) advance? Having iPhone8 plans is like having the plans to the Wright Flyer.

Might be cool, but ain’t worth a dang.

It’s their business model. They’re built to be obsolete within a year, by design.

Gordon Moore would probably beg to differ.