The Case for Raising US Tariffs on China After March 1st!

Well they could have, but you see now they have to pay the price for moving manufacturing to China to get around competing with other US companies. Karma is a bitch. If only they had looked at the long term picture instead of focusing on short term gains. Turns out that “free trade” wasn’t exactly free. Oh well.

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Well in another view they did do business with the communists, so the results shouldn’t be surprising for committing corporate treason. When that happens, we all suffer, and shouldn’t be rejoicing an American company’s demise, even though we could care less that its Apple.

I no longer see them as an American company. They sold us out to make a quick buck. Let them enjoy their new friends, the Chinese.

Speaking of retarded we have now come full circle on the “free trade” scam.

The expectation going forward as American companies bring in foreign college graduates for cheap labor, American graduates will be working for foreign companies to compete with them.

There is good news though. Trump is already putting a stop to this.

No wonder they’re trying so hard to get rid of him. He’s just messing up all of their hard work over the past 30 years.

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This is why I don’t buy things made in China, because shit like this can happen! Nike also uses slave labor in North Korea to make their products with a secret deal they have with the communist Chinese party!

Not to mention…

The Nike brand became somewhat controversial following a branding decision by the corporation to support the political efforts of Colin Kaepernick as the face for their products.

Fortunately this was not a serious injury to Williamson other wise I would suspect a lawsuit is forthcoming, which would be poetic justice in a round about way!

This is truly a historical picture in many ways, as the Chinese Dragon Trade delegation have never had to deal with a team of US negotiators that aren’t bought! Truly epic! Literally trillions of dollars are at stake, and there is 9 hours left in this round of talks before increased tariffs are set to kick in March 1st.

Watch and feel the tension!

Ever notice how fast cell phones (tech) advance? Having iPhone8 plans is like having the plans to the Wright Flyer.

Might be cool, but ain’t worth a dang.

It’s their business model. They’re built to be obsolete within a year, by design.

Gordon Moore would probably beg to differ.

Sure and he’d be lying. But whatevs.

He’s been correct since something like 1962.

Of course he has. Wink wink nudge nudge. And then there’s reality.

See Moore’s law.

Ah yes. That certainly explains why the current gen is bigger than the last. Literally the opposite of Moore’s law, but again whatevs. :roll_eyes:

Oh my…

Be well.

I don’t have a plan.

I bought the phone, own the phone, Daughter has the 8s as well as the wife.

We pay 90 month for unlimited service, they throw in Netflix for free.

The 8s processor is the same as the iPhone x. If you want to be COOL, you trade up for a grand a phone is you want fast service, the 8s works fine.

Do I care about toys for boys, nope, care about cost of service and the over all service.

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Obsolete as in unusable, undesirable, or doesn’t have the latest bells and whistles?

Meanwhile the case for or against raising tariffs:

  1. It will cost more for goods imported from the affected countries, like china.
  2. The affected countries may raise tariffs on imported US goods. Trade war could ensue.
  3. It may encourage manufacturers to move jobs back to the US.
  4. It’s a tax and the treasury benefits which may help reduce the deficit.
  5. It may allow for negotiations to improve the trade imbalance.

On your point number 2.

The amount of goods going into China exported from America, is no where near the amount in which China exports their goods to America. If it came down to a numbers game the US has the advantage. The amount of goods exported from America to China is less than 20% whereas China is at or over 60% (Hence the large trade deficit) so essentially China will run out of bullets before the US does on that front.

On your point number 1.

Yes that is true, but on the positive side, that will mean demand for domestically made products will increase, while also exploring cheaper trade deals with other partners, in essence a more diversified portfolio is beneficial to US markets.

Lastly the changes that the US is asking for and the main driving wedge between the countries in the current negotiations is IP theft, espionage, Forced transfer of technology of US companies doing business in China, enforcement mechanisms and market access is something China would have to make wholesale changes to their domestic policies which chances are is probably not going to happen. And any concessions that the US does make will no doubt be seen as a sign of weakness by the Chinese, and Trump and team know this to be true as well in which any deal struck will probably be met with high degree of skepticism.

All in all, I really don’t see where a deal is possible with China, when you consider that they have repeatedly violated WTO rules, broken agreements and has acted as an adversary of the US from the beginning when they were first invited into the WTO by the Clinton administration. Also consider the Huawei issue as well as their constant attacks to our Military development industry where Chinese Nationals are being caught stealing is not really acting like a good faith trading partner, much like the relationship we enjoy with Europe.

Lastly its no secret what the Chinese Communist party’s ambitions are as evident in what they are doing in the South China sea and stealing our Military secrets. The US’s aim is to hurt them economically so that they can’t race to build up their military, and the Tariffs as the price to be paid for all their blatant theft is pretty much their unfettered access to US markets and their deceptive lobbying efforts within our political system is about to change quite drastically. Raising tariffs to 25% and closing the loop holes in the new USMC deal in which the Chinese also exploited is the only way to protect American interest and insure its future prosperity. In essence there should be no compromise when negotiating with the Chinese, the US holds all the leverage and its a zero sum game!

Our trade agreements benefit our trade partners far more than the US.

Mexico before NAFTA we had a small positive trade balance year after year. Today, 60 billion deficit. GM closes factories in the US, Mexico gets a pass.

The China trade deal is horrible as we have a 300 billion plus a year trade deficit.

China has used the deficit to buy over a trillion in US debt, think that’s healthy?

Of course foreign governments will steal secrets from the US especially when we make secrets so accessible behind weak security systems. Until the US gets serious about cyber scurry the fun will continue.