Just because the Nazis had “socialist” in their name doesn’t mean that they were ACTUALLY socialists. The use of the word socialist was intentional, to draw the workers parties of Germany away from actual socialism/Marxism and into fascism.
Also - full fascism completely revived the German economy. The war of aggression against Germany is what caused problems. Hitler re-united his country and the German people based upon nationalism and fascism. The war kicked off because Hitler rescued the Germans within the post-WW1 borders of Poland who were being massacred by the Polish military at the time.
Private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership : it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
De facto government ownership of the means of production, was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State. If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State.
But what specifically established de facto socialism in Nazi Germany was the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936. These were imposed in response to the inflation of the money supply carried out by the regime from the time of its coming to power in early 1933. The Nazi regime inflated the money supply as the means of financing the vast increase in government spending required by its programs of public works, subsidies, and rearmament. The price and wage controls were imposed in response to the rise in prices that began to result from the inflation.
Wait a minute…breaking free of the globalist banking cartel at the time (and issuing their own non-fiat currency) made them socialist? Da fug u talkin bout?
Socialism is an economic system where everyone in society equally owns the factors of production. The ownership is acquired through a democratically elected government. It could also be a cooperative or a public corporation where everyone owns shares. The four factors of production are labor, entrepreneurship, capital goods, and natural resources.
These factors are valued for their usefulness to people.
This includes individual needs and greater social needs. That might include the preservation of natural resources, education, or health care. That requires most economic decisions to be made by central planning, as in a command economy.
A mantra of socialism is, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution.” Everyone in society receives a share of the production based on how much each has contributed. That motivates them to work long hours if they want to receive more.
Workers receive their share after a percentage has been deducted for the common good. Examples are transportation, defense, and education. Some also define the common good as caring for those who can’t directly contribute to production. Examples include the elderly, children, and their caretakers.
Now try and understand what socialism really is. And you own an equal share of what company compliments of government???
So - everything I listed above is a characterization of a free market, capitalist system then?
We aren’t full socialist (yet) but we are certainly a hybrid. The government takes land for it’s own purposes all the time. We are all taxed for using land that we own and which the state provides nothing in return, other than more socialist programs and policies.
Businesses are heavily regulated and taxed by the state which is a form of controlling the means of production.
If you are a quasi-socialist statist, just say so.
The police department is owned and operated by the state and paid for through taxation. Socialism.
The roads are owned and maintained (allegedly) by the state and paid for through taxation. Socialism.
Public toilets are owned and operated by the state and paid for through taxation. Socialism.
Definition of socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Socialism is an economic system where everyone in society equally owns the factors of production. The ownership is acquired through a democratically elected government. It could also be a cooperative or a public corporation where everyone owns shares. The four factors of production are labor, entrepreneurship, capital goods, and natural resources.
So what you are trying to say is that you support state control over things that the private sector could provide but are prohibited by the state from doing so, that when the state provides infrastructure or a service that could be performed by the private sector … it’s NOT socialism because somehow the means of production aren’t controlled by the state in these instances, that businesses aren’t controlled by the state through taxation and regulation, and that the taxation necessary to provide all of those things that I listed above isn’t theft or socialism - but capitalism and freedom
