SCOTUS keeps citizenship question on hold in census case

From a Harvard Study

Extrapolating our results to the general population, we estimate that asking about citizenship would reduce the share of Hispanics recorded by the Census by approximately 6.07 million, or around 12.03 percent of the 2010 Hispanic population – a sizable reduction in the share of the U.S. population that would be recorded as Hispanic.

The (Supreme Court) judges concluded that Ross’ explanation of needing citizenship information to enforce the voting rights act was implausible. Each judge also found that Ross’ decision would lead to a gross undercounting of residents.

That would be against the law if they refuse to turn in their census form. They wouldn’t break the law would they? They are innocent and law abiding moms and children. Remember?

How are non citizens still counted? Do they even bother to participate?

ALL TOPICS go off on tangents.

Yeah no shit! It’s no excuse to keep derailing the thread!

People of all races and ethnic groups do not participate in the Census. That’s why they apply algorithms that estimate the number of people not personally counted.

First off, they are counted if they choose to participate, and secondly the CB applies algorithms to estimate the number of people who refuse (for whatever reason) to participate.

The census is for the purpose of counting those living in the country. If you don’t want that accurate count then you’re after something else, shrug.

That’s the point, and the citizenship question causes many not to participate, which leads to an inaccurate count of everyone living in the country which is why it didn’t appear after the 1950 census…:man_shrugging:

All responses to the Census are confidential. Stating your citizenship does not expose an illegal resident to apprehension, detention or deportation. Asking the citizenship question, however, more accurately enumerates the population of states for the purposes of proportioning representation in Congress. Indiscriminately counting illegal residents along with legal residents gives states with large populations of illegals an unfair advantage over the legal citizens of the other states.

EVERY Census has a predictable number of non-participants. As I said before, the CB has algorithms that are applied to fairly accurately count those who chose (for whatever reason) not to participate. Besides, the total number of residents is not nearly as important as the distribution between the states. The primary reason for the census is for the apportionment of Representatives, and only legal residents are supposed to be counted for that purpose. Sure, money can be apportioned based on all residents, but illegal resident have no right to representation in Congress.

State your source for your last sentence. Illegal immigration was not a significant issue in 1950 or in 1960. It is very unlikely that that is the reason it was dropped.

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SAM!!! The question is intimidating and I already linked you the Harvard study demonstrating the effect it will have on many undocumented residents, please do read it.

So what? Do you think California and Texas and other states wth a lot of illegal residents should get more representation in Congress just because illegal residents might be afraid the the US Census Bureau will break their oath of confidentiality? Read what the Constitution has to say about the reason for the decadal census.

ETA Still waiting for the link to your statement from your previous post.

Deceptive once again.
This is starting to be a habit with you.

So if a simple count is all that we should get, what nefarious plot did Obama have in 2010 when he sent out census forms that asked for sex, age, race, and ethnicity?

Why is it intimidating to a law abiding resident?

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I’m not sure what it is you’re taking issue with. Are you disagreeing that the citizenship question was on the census between 1890 and 1950, and then removed?

Are you aware of the exception that was made during WW2 allowing Mexicans to come into the country to work and live without the normal citizenship status, and how many remained, never returning to Mexico. Or is there something else?

No, I’m not suggesting anything beyond the Harvard’s study concluding that the citizenship question on the census will result in an inaccurate count of those living here. Perhaps that’s the objective, and that’s why the Trump administration and Trump supporters such as yourself support adding the question…:man_shrugging:

Also, between 50-75% of undocumented workers pay federal, state and local taxes…:wink:

Again, you were asked to provide proof of this yet you failed once again to provide a source. Just because you keep repeating this blatant lie doesn’t make you any smarter nor does it make it true, in fact it only confirms that you tell many lies here and when asked to back your statements with verifiable facts but you simply continue to ignore it! I wonder why that is? And you wonder why people call you stupid, retarded and or an idiot here? You simply have no self respect to actually state anything with a level of degree of integrity and intelligence!

Who is making the argument that the question is too complicated???

It’s a simple question that will scare off participation by some 6 plus million residents according to a Harvard study (that I posted here).

If you’re not interested in an accurate count of who is living here, then just own it…:man_shrugging: