Remember when Trump and Flynn claimed that Hillary Clinton’s people claiming the 5th was proof positive of guilt…
Did trump take the 5th? I missed that, Sparky. Can you provide a link
Uncorroborated accusations. I asked for actual evidence.
You make the claim it’s up to you to support it.
I didn’t make the claim. I follow the news. This claim has been out there since 2016 and it is still ongoing.
Your logic can also be applied to Epstein. If you were consistent you wouldn’t have said this as Epstein is still innocent:
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But he likes Dershowitz so logic goes out the window and double standards prevail. Personally, I think Dershowitz is a conniving shyster who helps murderers beat the rap. I don’t care what his political views are. He’s a world class piece of shit.
You posted it, thus it’s your claim.
“Innocent until proven guilty” only applies as a legal theory in court.
He’s a defense atty and he does what defense atty’s do and he’s very good at his job.
What a double talking crock of shit.
Facts, live with them or don’t.
Presumption of Innocence
A principle that requires the government to prove the guilt of a criminaldefendant and relieves the defendant of any burden to prove his or herinnocence.
The presumption of innocence, an ancient tenet of Criminal Law, isactually a misnomer. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, thepresumption of the innocence of a criminal defendant is best described asan assumption of innocence that is indulged in the absence of contraryevidence ( Taylor v. Kentucky , 436 U.S. 478, 98 S. Ct. 1930, 56 L. Ed. 2d468 [1978]). It is not considered evidence of the defendant’s innocence,and it does not require that a mandatory inference favorable to thedefendant be drawn from any facts in evidence.
In practice the presumption of innocence is animated by the requirementthat the government prove the charges against the defendant Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. This due process requirement, a fundamental tenetof criminal law, is contained in statutes and judicial opinions. Therequirement that a person suspected of a crime be presumed innocentalso is mandated in statutes and court opinions. The two principles gotogether, but they can be separated.
The Supreme Court has ruled that, under some circumstances, a courtshould issue jury instructions on the presumption of innocence in additionto instructions on the requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt( Taylor v. Kentucky ). A presumption of innocence instruction may berequired if the jury is in danger of convicting the defendant on the basis ofextraneous considerations rather than the facts of the case.
The presumption of innocence principle supports the practice of releasingcriminal defendants from jail prior to trial. However, the government maydetain some criminal defendants without bail through the end of trial. TheEighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that excessive bailshall not be required, but it is widely accepted that governments have theright to detain through trial a defendant of a serious crime who is a flightrisk or poses a danger to the public. In such cases the presumption ofinnocence is largely theoretical.
Aside from the related requirement of proof beyond a reasonable doubt,the presumption of innocence is largely symbolic. The reality is that nodefendant would face trial unless somebody—the crime victim, theprosecutor, a police officer—believed that the defendant was guilty of acrime. After the government has presented enough evidence to constituteProbable Cause to believe that the defendant has committed a crime, theaccused need not be treated as if he or she was innocent of a crime, andthe defendant may be jailed with the approval of the court.
Nevertheless, the presumption of innocence is essential to the criminalprocess. The mere mention of the phrase presumed innocent keepsjudges and juries focused on the ultimate issue at hand in a criminal case:whether the prosecution has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that thedefendant committed the alleged acts. The people of the United Stateshave rejected the alternative to a presumption of innocence—apresumption of guilt—as being inquisitorial and contrary to the principles ofa free society.
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Have some facts, you dickhead zogbot:
In 2014, Virginia Roberts accused Alan Dershowitz (Jeffrey Epstein’s and Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer) of participating in illegal sexual activities with her when she was a minor.
Alan Dershowitz is a personal friend and attorney for Jeffrey Epstein, a sex offender and rapist of underage girls with ties to both the Clintons and Trump family. Dershowitz has been going after Viriginia Roberts Giuffre, one of Epstein’s victims, because she has accused Dershowitz of engaging in Epstein’s activities with underage girls.
In this case, Giuffre is suiing Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s madam, for defamation since Maxwell accused Giuffre of making up all her claims. For some reason, Dershowitz wants information released from this case, that Giuffre does not. It’s unclear what the information is, but it may be personal to Giuffre or another one of Epstein’s victims. Either way, the judge denied Dershowitz’s motion.
Enter Mike Cernovich.
Mike pretended to file on behalf of Ghislane, in his capacity as an “investigative journalist,” implying that he was interested in breaking open a story that was damaging to the Clintons. Mike then filed a motion asking for the same information the alleged sex offender Dershowitz was asking for: he filed to have the same document released that Giuffre blocked. Giuffre and her attorney’s still don’t want the docs released and filed a response showing Mike Cernovich’s close ties to Dershowitz (pic related: the other man is Loren Feldman, an anti-white ■■■ who spews hate on Twitter. He’s Mike’s big investor and business partner). Giuffre believes that Cernovich was ACTUALLY asking for the information to benefit Dershowitz under
the pretense that he is only a journalist who knew about or became information in the information.
Mike Cernovich was working with Jeffery Epstein’s attorney in helping Epstein with his Pedophile Island case.
Here’s a the original motion:
intervenor-alan-dershowitz-memorandum-of-law-in-support-of-michael-cervnovich-motion-to-unseal.pdf (481.1 KB)
And once again, unsupported allegations are not facts dumbass.
Obama had plenty he did or said about himself … so why would I bother?
Oh yeah - here is Prince Andrew in the pic with the Dershowitz accuser with Epstein’s girlfriend in the background.
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Kind of the way the Trumper is with Trump…
Probably why Dershowitz has been the only Democrat kissing Trump’s ass on Fox News since the beginning. He wants to avoid GITMO for being a twisted pedo.
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And? Did he have sex with everyone he took a picture with?
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Hmmm, you make a good, plausible point…
If he didn’t then Epstein dindu nuffin.
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What an utterly stupid statement. Unless he were convicted as a foreign terrorist he could not be sent to Gitmo, neither can anyone else.