That was a US ship of course which came under attack. But surely you don’t believe that the US has a constitutional mandate to protect the right of all OTHER countries to sail the seas???
We have the moral mandate because we are the only ones with the capability.
Morality: Probably a subject that is lost on people who are pro-infanticide and pro-socialism and all.
All topics go off on tangents. My father was with OSS 101 during WW2. He was a seasoned jungle fighter ( 3 years in the Burma jungle ). He told me, Vietnam could have been laid to rest in 2 or 3 months. He quoted Monty Python concerning the way Vietnam was handled. He called it, the 100 yard dash for people with no sense of direction. As far as Japanese civilians dying; lest we forget: [
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Sep 10, 2013 - and this is why a lot of chinese really hate the japanese . … what bayoneting was? did you not think it had something to do with a bayonet ?
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So 100,000 Japanese died after the Americans dropped the bombs. Lets put it in perspective. And as many as 17 million Chinese casualties weren’t soldiers. They were civilians, unarmed and defenseless, and many of them were put through unimaginable hell before they were killed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps Hiroshima & Nagasaki can be considered KARMA.
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And you believe this because of their use to end a worldwide war 75 years ago?
Usually, but I’ve never cared, it’s always easy to bring it right back with an on topic post. 
But yesterday, the pack that was going around the forum gang flagging off topic posts were themselves the biggest offenders…
But in light of the warning @Tyfoon posted this morning, the best way to handle Iran is to honor our commitment with France, the UK, Germany, Russia and China to The JCPOA which Iran was compliant with, which all party’s certified Iranian compliance to, including Trump himself.
This current escalation toward another useless ME war and wasted American blood and treasure is egregious…
You might as well be honest and include yourself in the reference! It’s rather shallow not to mention game of you to claim the moral positioning here, when you among others are the biggest offender of regularly posting fake narratives here that isn’t based on verifiable facts! Practice what you preach bubba!
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What I find interesting is that lately he has been siding with people who are his natural mortal enemy just to attack Trump and people like me. Its like Stalin siding with Hitler to attack Poland.
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However you want to frame it, but if the US can justify the use of nuclear weapons on civilians, then so can anybody else.
But to the op, the best way to handle Iran is by de escalation just as Japan has suggested, the ones who were actually attacked and are requiring evidence other than the bs grainy video offered up by the US.
Those who are “not buying” what the video clearly shows are simply entrenched enemies of the US.
What is that old saying? I think it goes something like this: “Who are you going to believe: me, or your lying eyes?”
Oh, as for your assertion that there is “zero for Iran to gain,” it all depends upon the actual effect: Clearly, US sanctions are badly hurting Iran–its economy is now in a shambles, and its currency is practically worthless–so Iran wishes to encourage America’s allies to out pressure on the US to relieve those sanctions.
Sorry, that’s complete bs. Not only is that video unclear, and proves nothing. Japan and Germany are not entrenched enemies of the US…
Furthermore, we’re not sending US boys and girls to die over a Japanese and a Norwegian ship attack in which nobody was even hurt…
Could your doubt possibly be rooted in a pre-conceived position?
There is a term for that: It is the a priori fallacy…
Yeah right, and the way they’re going to accomplish that is by attacking an American ally. Sorry pj but like so many others, I’m not buying it.
My doubt is based upon a crappy video along with the crew members statements, which I suspect is what has driven doubts from Japan and Germany.
And who, exactly, are "so many others (besides liberals and the enemies of America)?
By the way: The theory makes perfectly good sense to me.
But perhaps you can explain why it just does not…
Again, I reject the notion that Japan and Germany are our enemies. Well, nor liberals for that matter. Btw, have you seen the other people on the right, right here on this forum that aren’t buying this bs?? Yours isn’t the only thread on it.
It should not be overlooked (do you really wish to be disingenuous?) that American ships have been similarly attacked.
And an American drone was just attacked–apparently, to prevent its recording of this incident.
In any case, the actual impact is not hardly limited to Japan. If international prices rise, the American economy also takes a hit.
And Iran should certainly not be allowed to close the Strait of Hormuz–or the nearly Gulf of Oman–or even to decide just who gets to pass through either.
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What American ship has Iran attacked?
No “evidence” supporting that.
No, they shouldn’t, and haven’t…