Healthcare: a "human" right?

Political Science
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You are applying the word incorrectly, not as it was meant but as it has been used since.

John Marshall, in Marbury, wrote that the establishment of permanent principals as the objective of the exercise of the Origional Right … the Left cares nought for principals, changing the meaning of words to suit them. If they don’t like something they screw around with the word.

Again, progressives depend on a belief system where the Constitution is only appearance, form (words) without substance (principals).

Personal welfare of individuals isn’t the general welfare.

People’s circumstances are not amendments to the Constitution to permit the federal to do anything about them.

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That is what is referred to as “deconstruction” a method by which breaking down objective truth into the subjective renders such objectivity as being meaningless therefore can be turned into meaning anything that the speaker wishes it to be!

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John Marshall’s is one of a host of opinions. The government is obliged to promote the general welfare. This has been debated over a century and clearly there are myriad of opinions on exactly what that means. But creation of programs that ensure the most basic of needs, is paramount as the other needs that so many have no problem supporting are moot if one hasn’t sufficient food and shelter to begin with. Even to be a first world country, the citizenry surely has to be properly fed and housed.

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Entitlement programs are not designed to create dependency on the Government only as a temporary measure until people needing help are able to work again!

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For the purpose of promoting the general welfare. General welfare is the most basic of needs.

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Yep, but that’s an echo chamber…

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How hypocritical of you.

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How so, a pregnant woman counts as one person…:man_shrugging:

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According to communists like you!

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That’s pure crap, “Human Rights” are determined by men, written by men, and enforced by men.

Christ no where in the bible tells us that everyone is entitled to free healthcare.

Christian Charity is a gift of the heart, nothing is taken by force from one to provide for another.

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They laid out exactly what the congress was empowered to “provide for” in the taxing and spending clause.

Article 1: S8

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

No mention of free health care for all.

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See what happens when someone murders a pregnant woman or seriously injures her causing the death of the child.

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Murder charges for the death of the child.

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It’s not a bullet that can harm someone until it’s fired. Right?

Till then it’s just a “potential deadly missile”.

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Well you are missing a lot , no surprise .

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The specific Powers to promote the general welfare are the enumerated Powers.

“General welfare” grants no authority to spend.

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And as I said, that’s subjective having been debated now widely, about from the beginning, with nothing like a consensus…:man_shrugging:

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Swing and a miss!

Progressives act like disagreements on things like about where the nation should do its checking amount to substantive disagreements about things which were not in contention until numerable decades later.

I marvel at the ideology that basically acts as though the Modern Court, beginning in the 1930s, somehow were the ones to be faithful to uphold the Constitution and free it from the lawlessness that had restrained it for well over a century!

What a splendid thing this: that apostasy and faithlessness comes first and integrity and fidelity last.

(Someone, quick, tell Christ that he will find faith when He returns while we are at it.)

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I said nothing of the sort. I suggested that this has been being debated since the beginning, in fact it was sharply disputed between Hamilton and Madison…:man_shrugging:

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Well, enlighten me Einstein.