Dresden 1945 75 years ago!

Right.
Killing millions of Germans by starvation — after the war ended.

History will have us believing, only ■■■■ suffered. War always creates pandemonium. Rhyme & reason is the very first to go. Logistics often become nonexistent. It always boils down to, a handful of lunatics cause immeasurable human misery.

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Churchill gleefully ordered direct attacks against cities like Dresden filled with nothing but art, cultural artifacts, women and children. Fuck that piece of shit. Fuck Roosevelt, too.

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The entire population was not reduced to charcoal. That is simply a lie.

Putin who runs Russia today is a product of the cold war, he was a Soviet KGB agent and continues to run the country very similar to the old gov’t particularly with respect to the use of propaganda.

You are dangerously ignorant.

Stalin was always as evil as Hitler and arguably even worse. The reason Soviet casualties were so enormous was him personally ordering even unarmed civilians to fight to the death to resist the Nazi invasion and he was more than willing to sacrifice entire army groups to slow the advance so he could buy time to get their industry which had to be moved hundreds of miles to the east to be out of range of German Bombers up and running.

Following the war the reprisals by Stalin’s henchmen murdered entire remaining populations of cities and towns in what had been Nazi Occupied territory because he saw them as traitors simply for surrendering and not being murdered en masse by the Nazis.

Fun fact: Some American bombers on their way to Dresden got lost and accidentally bombed Prague. “hey there is a city with a river running through, it must be it."

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At Stalingrad, there were skirmishes where only one Russian in 5 had a weapon. They were expected to grab the rifle from the guy who was killed in front of them, and keep advancing. What I said, very often, the misery is caused by just a handful of lunatics. WC Fields was spot on when he said; during wars. the leaders of the countries involved should fight it out in a ring, with socks filled with horse shit. War is not romantic or glamorous; it is a fucking nightmare. You cannot sugar coat a nightmare.

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That aint’ exactly newsworthy. Lots of bombers got lost and had to then go to secondary and tertiary targets or hit the wrong target altogether throughout the war.

There was no GPS at the time and they frequently flew in very bad weather obscuring both landmarks as well as celestial navigation points.

I used to feel the same way but if WWII had been fought that way Stalin would have ruled the world.

Stalin took paranoia to an entirely new dimension. No rugs in the homes he lived in; since they could muffle footsteps. Pure distilled evil. I guess most dictators are around the bend.

So yeah - nice excuse for bombing civilians.

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Simply fact. There always have been and always will be deaths due to mistakes in every war.

It doesn’t make people less dead, but it’s infinitely worse to know you’re bombing civilians.

Most of the bombing casualties throughout the war were civilians living in cities that were legitimate military targets because of their industrial, communications, and transportation terminals.

It was simply necessary.

You couldn’t destroy the critical infrastructure without also killing the civilians living in the area.

So yeah - nice excuse for bombing civilians. Bagel

Tell that to Hitler and Tojo!

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That’s exactly what Dresden was not.

That’s more than “crossing a line”

Right, it’s not a mistake when you target a city or village. It’s not like you aimed for the can and hit the fence post…:roll_eyes:

You will never have the moral high ground when you target and kill civilians and call it legitimate military targets. Unless your just a filthy warmonger and we certainly have those. You destroy a whole city and kill 100,000 civilians and call it a “legitimate military target” because there was a factory in it that manufactures brake shoes for armored military vehicles, or even manufactured hand grenades.

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