Brexit Betrayal

Boris is not giving up and not stepping down.

It isn’t supreme, it’s corrupt - or at least 350 parliamentarians are, for overriding the wishes of the majority of their constituents.

I’ve just posted this on his Twitter page: Don’t lose your confidence, Boris. I look on it as you’re one patriot up against 350 traitors, and I’m sure there are about 1.7 + million other patriots out there who feel the same. Wish that I shared your ‘respect’ for the 11 judges. lol

I know one thing (and I’d rather not know it!), and that’s if he’s prevented from achieving his pledge to have us out on 31 October the shit really will hit the fan.

As one of today’s press front pages says ‘We’ve been shafted by the elitists.’ I’d insert ‘well and truly’ in there somewhere. lol

I can’t believe that we were asked to make a simple referendum decision: it wasn’t complicated, nor multiple choice, it was either ‘We want to remain’, or ‘We want out.’, and 4 fucking years on, our servants are still denying our decision. ‘democracy’? ‘idiocracy’? Forget it - oligarchy is the name of the game. And if I see that Miller woman’s ugly mug on my tv screen again I’ll chuck the remote at it. Actually I’d give anything to know what’s in it for her - there must be something? Oh, and as I’ve asked before, who’s paying her legal costs? They’re probably coming out of our latest contribution to the EU? Think of the irony in that? :rofl:

“Boris Johnson’s suspension of parliament unlawful, supreme court rules”

And in the immortal words of Mandy Rice Davies ‘Well they would, wouldn’t they!’ :roll_eyes: lol

Can someone explain to me what law he broke - I thought parliament was suspended every year for the party conferences so why illegal this time?

I’ll give Jen a chance to answer that because she’s more articulate than I am. If she doesn’t, I’ll try and explain, but it might not be until tomorrow mornimng.

This definition might shed some light on what is fast becoming a bit of a sham…

Illegal means that it is forbidden by a law that has been passed.
Unlawful means that it is not authorised by law because no such law has been passed.

another way of expressing:
Illegal and unlawful have slightly different meanings, although they are often used interchangeably. Something that is illegal is against the law, whereas an unlawful act merely contravenes the rules that apply in a particular context. Thus handball in soccer is unlawful, but it is not illegal.

Unlawful seems to be different than breaking a law !

From what I understood from the ruling he simply attempted to prevent parliament from questioning brexit dealings instead of what was suggested using the time to prepare for a queens speach.

I don’t think laws were broken per se as a law had never been passed to say prorogation was not allowed for x number of weeks.

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That’s a very interesting and enlightening post, thank you. I’ve often wondered about the uses of illegal and unlawful. I’d just love for some subtle distinction like that to discredit and render void the High Court’s judgement. :joy:

Me neither - As far as I know there is no law preventing proroguation - it happens every 12 months FFS
So if Boris doesn’t send the letter will he be breaking the law - which law?

Letter ?? what to extend the deadline for exiting the E.U. ?

That’s another sham. If he has to write a letter I suspect that could be worded in a million deifferent ways :rofl: perhaps the court will have to approve that wording before sending.

It really is becoming a circus and I cannot see the future when whatever will happen has happened and all of a sudden the country is back to normal whatever normal will mean in the future of British politics. Credibilty is being lost rapidly.

Sad days

Massage the numbers a bit and this applies to our President Trump also. Our Demwit traitors are collectively undermining our system of government in refusing to accept the results of the 2016 election. They are wasting taxpayer money and denying the country legislative actions that are needed to improve our lot…in their incessant concentration on removing a duly elected President from office and subverting the will of the American voters.

A similar scenario applies to the denial of the Brexit vote. The will of the people is being subverted.

Why have a ballot issue if the results are not to be permitted to occur?

For THAT purpose yes, to stifle parliament from doing their job…NO

Boris broke no law. It was a rhetorical question.

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Suppose that Johnson was deceptive with the Queen? Don’t know that we’ll ever know what he said to her…

Do you have conclusive proof that is the case? Like I said in the RH, that is simply conjecture and “not beyond reasonable doubt.”

Parliament had 3 1/2 years to debate Brexit. Now they go to court over an additional 4-5 days than normal prorogation which happens every September for the party conferences. Now I would say, they are the ones who have a motive, to stop Brexit.

The shit will certainly get sprayed very soon. It will be clear that the only two options left are no deal or revoke Article 50. Guess what these Remainers will try to do? That is why they are so desperate for that little bit of extra time.

Edit: I suppose democracy isn’t a big thing with you when it doesn’t go your way. Does the fact that 17.4million, the majority who voted to leave, have any bearing? Many people who voted remain want to see this farce over and done with too. To them, democracy is greater than stay or leave. However, the Establishment and those associated with it, plus a number of extremely vocal loonies want to achieve remain by any means possible, including overturning democracy and installing a tyrannical dictatorship. In fact I would argue that is what they want. Thus this has become more than simply leave or remain. It is democracy versus tyranny.

You might have seen the crap that former PM David Cameron is getting, over divulging snippets of conversations with the Queen.

It is taboo to discuss anything that is said to or said by or even gesticulated by the Queen.

I’m not the one that needs anything…That’s for your Supreme Court. This is why I’ve asked you how YOUR Supreme Court works. Our Supreme Court decisions are followed by briefs that explain the ruling view…

Don’t you think the Queen is old enough to make her own mind up?

That’s a whole other issue that I haven’t even been addressing…:man_shrugging:

I’m discussing Johnson’s motivation for prorogation of parliament which the UK Supreme Court found to be unlawful.

No one is beyond deception. And for the record, I asked the question while pointing out that we don’t know what Johnson’s conversation with the Queen was, and likely won’t…