On the subject of the Lisbon Treaty, and maybe this will encourage Sean out of the woodwork if he is lurking, I found this interesting explanation.
If you believe this is the wrong thread please let me know…
It’s about 700+ pages to fact check 
If the piece was wrong it does need pointing out of course but why James O’Brien, prize tool !
I found this article which is maybe where the Chinese whisper started…
looks like the type of guy that become sweaty in a playground
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There is a way we can leave with neither side getting the blame.
Atm in law we leave next Friday. If we don’t revoke article50 and EU ‘‘can’t’’ extend we will leave by ‘‘accident’’ and everyone can say not my fault guv.
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The most positive thing we need to hang on to is that the Tories absolutely cannot afford to stay in the EU - Just imagine the backlash at the next election if we haven’t left - the Tories would be eradicated. And the Tories know that and they will do everything and anything they can to stay in power.
Papers have been served.
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Getting better every day
Page won’t load, I will try again l8r
I am wondering and actually surprised none of you folks are talking about this issue, but how are you and your fellow citizens are going to deal with what appears to be the toughest internet laws in the world?
This only made the main TV news today.
Whatever happens the public will have no say.
All you Brits had to do was listen.
Margaret Thatcher’s prophetic prediction of the Euro’s failure:
The growth of extremist parties, mass immigration, and unemployment.
"If the divergence between different European economies is so great that even the ERM cannot contain them, how would those economies react to a single European currency?
The answer is that there would be chaos of the sort which would make the difficulties of recent days pale by comparison.
Huge sums would have to be transferred from richer to poorer countries and regions to allow them to take the strain. Even then unemployment and mass migration across now open frontiers would follow. And a full-fledged Single currency would allow no escape hatch.
The political consequences can already be glimpsed: the growth of extremist parties, battening on fears about mass immigration and unemployment, offering a real — if thoroughly unwelcome — alternative to the Euro-centrist political establishment.
If in addition you were to create a supra-national European federation, and the people could no longer hold their national parliaments to account, extremism could only grow further.
It is time for the European politicians to sit up and take note. Time to stop their endless rounds of summits — summitry is fast becoming a substitute for decision-making — and observe the reality around them.
There is a growing sense of remoteness, an alienation of people from their institutions of government and their political leaders. There is a fear that the European train will thunder forward, laden with its customary cargo of gravy, towards a destination neither wished nor understood by electorates. But the train can be stopped."
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1992 Sep 19 Sa, Margaret Thatcher.
Speech to CNN World Economic Development Conference.
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It wasn’t always that way. As new Tory party leader she was on the Europe Express in the 1975 referendum.
Ironically it was probably not one of her own but Tony Benn who convinced her she was on the wrong tack.
The debacle unfolding in front of our eyes was planned from the moment the result was known.
The Prime Minister has lied repeatedly with her mantra of Brexit means Brexit.
The only reason she is still Prime Minister is because no one else wants the job at this time.
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It now looks like Brexit could be delayed for another 12 months!
Theresa May is humiliating the UK and The Tory government with all this incessant pleading.
If Brexit is delayed for a year then it will never happen and the will of the people has been ignored.
It was never a binding referendum but the conservatives pledged to honor the result. I would normally say such a betrayal would result in a massive loss in a general election but no one wants Corbyn as Prime Minister and UKIP are not a viable third party.
A lot of people in the UK could not believe when America elected Trump.
All parties and sides are in on this globalism crap.
Y’all are going to have to join US in some out of the box leadership if you don’t want to be serfs in service of Globalism.
May God bless you, I hope that you fall out of the EU by the incompetence of your “elites”. Beware, some/most will try to inflict pain on you. These assholes are nothing if not predictable.
Throw off the chains on Friday!
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Looking likely that Brexit is never going to happen. The ramifications and fall out of that are impossible to predict. Everyone thought the Prime Minister was out of power a few weeks ago but here she is still Prime Minister and still begging Europe for concessions.
Maybe that is the plan - we stay in long enough to collapse the whole fucking edifice - I used to think that Germany would leave before we did - still think its possible.
Many people have said this, I don’t see how it cannot be binding when a) it was held specifically to capture the will of the people after Cameron got the big Fuck-Off from Brussels and b) the turn-out was massive.
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In the UK because of the parliamentary system the results of a referendum can be ignored by the government or parliament but the Tories pledged that they would act on the will of the people.
Now with another extension I really do not see the UK leaving europe. Not sure how much longer May and her government can survive.