Basic Rights in the US

Political Science
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Citizens to decide by electing politicians who then choose for them what to do with many policies

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So does the right. What’s your point?

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Sounds like your business wasn’t very popular. Stop blaming your problems on the government

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^^^ Perfect example, right? @max-webster

He came in and just proved the point we discussed. :wink:

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No, I missed nothing.

There are no implied powers on account of the language of A1:S8:C1, nothing that is necessary and proper (to borrow from another clause) to the basic function of the government.

There is no power to spend on account of the words “general welfare” anywhere in the Constitution. Certainly not a power to regulate beyond that as the modern Left insists but even Hamilton didn’t advance.

Those words are part of a sub-clause justifying the power actually delegated (the power to tax) by the whole clause.

Ironically, the necessary and proper clause is easily the one rendered most superfluous by Hamiltonian lawlessness. Why need a clause that would allow, for example, that the federal as an employer should have the common rights and privileges that all employers have relative to their employees if all expenses for the general welfare are okay? Likewise the application of the n&p clause when it comes to the question of repaying government debt?

But to the modern Court all of A1:S8 after the first clause basically has no function as everything and so much more is covered by the misconstruction of that one clause.

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Mere elections are not the lawful procedure to delegate powers to the federal government.

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Isn’t it obvious? To increase taxes on the rich so that they will be less rich. Rich bad; tax good.

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So we’re right back where we started.

“Choose for them what to do…”

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You can’t be generous with other people’s money if they’ve got bupkis.

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Providing it remains in boundaries of Constitution…which the courts who are to preserve the intent have corrupted.

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You reference nothing so I expect you want no response.

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Sounds like you have your head planted where the sun doesn’t shine. Possibly you don’t read or comprehend well.

I currently make 6 figures working when I want. I no longer am burdened with idiots like yourself and pay taxes only on what I earn not taxes for all.The taxes I pay are roughly 50% of my earnings. Can you say that? As I’m tired of paying taxes at that rate, I’m looking at not working at all.

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I make plenty. You make 100k and pay 50k in taxes? Sounds like you are doing it wrong. I’m in California and don’t pay that much.

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Neither did you. You made a blanket statement saying “the left” wants everyone to pay their bills. What are you referencing with that statement?

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The government isn’t promoting it, you are.

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Both are dangerous, together they’d be nightmarish.

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Nobody’s reading comprehension can be this bad.

Equal shares of the tax burden for all doesn’t equate to everyone deciding for themselves how much to pay individually.

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Just because one has a right to do or have something doesn’t mean one has a right to demand that others pay for it.

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While we may agree on those points the reality is that the “general welfare” clause has been successfully used to justify the exponential growth in spending for things that were never mentioned in The Constitution for over a hundred years now.

Not only do the courts refuse to read the taxing and spending clause as written or intended they ignore almost completely the 9th and 10th amendments.

The potential for abuse was recognized early on thus the reason the 9th and 10th Amendments were added to the BOR.

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Some simply don’t get it. Having a right to, or to do something doesn’t equal a right to have it provided for you.