The USA defeated the evil of fascism in WWII but the twisted and grotesque version of today’s violent masked and hooded street thugs branding themselves (anti-fascists) ANTIFA are using Mussolini style tactics making them no better then the fascists and brown shirts of WWII and they are stealing the valor of our brave Military who actually fought against fascism and earned that badge of honor of defeating them.
I couldn’t disagree more. The men who fought in WWII fought actual facism and wholesale murder by a regime that had taken over the free nations of Europe.
ANTIFA is anti facist in acronym only.
They are a bunch of middle and upper middle class White kids who have glommed onto a mythology of fighting facism by violently assaulting anyone who disagrees with them, or is unarmed and in the wrong place/demographic at the wrong time. They, like black block, are anarchists who believe in destroying society so that it can be rebuilt as ??? It is little different from the Klan - pathetically small lives trying to be part of something bigger through joining a new ideology based religion wherein they cast each other as heroically fighting facism.
I invite you to read this posting on Quillette -it is an eye opening view into their little world.Sad Radicals
Odd that they only seem to appear when the proud bois, Joey Gibson and his cute little “patriot prayer” thugs announce a rally in Portland.
I wonder what it is about those very fine people that incites them
Your’s is an interesting perspective, thanks.
I’m no fan of ANTIFA. We saw them in the streets the night after the 2016 election as they defaced and in many cases destroyed shop owners business in downtown Portland. They’ve got some early childhood issues.
However from my understanding of the definition of Fascism or Hitler’s brown shirts they are not the best match. The folks they rally against are a much better match.
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They were a good enough a match to be the axis of evil allies and wage WWII. It was Hitlers German Nazi’s, Italy’s Mussolini Fascists, and Emperor Hirohito Japan’s Imperialists that the USA and our allies fought and defeated. Whatever totalitarian “ism” or “ist” label it all comes out as tyranny of dictatorships, in other words they all “match”!
They likely show up at Proud Bois events now, but they also have a history of blocking traffic in cities like Portland with no oppo side around, beating up girls at Berkely during a “protest” etc.
Did you read the Quillette piece or did you decide not to upon seeing there might be conservative content therein?
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Thanks for the reminder!
It’s fairly long so I’ll later pick up where I left off at FAITH.
So far I agree with much of what I’m reading as it applies to radical extremists of all stripes, not just ANTIFA. ANTIFA would not exist without their counterparts on the radical right…
What is a radical community? For the purposes of this article, I will define it as a community that shares both an ideology of complete dissatisfaction with existing society due to its oppressive nature and a desire to radically alter or destroy that society because it cannot be redeemed by its own means.
… toxicity in radical communities is not a bug. It is a feature. The ideology and norms of radicalism have evolved to produce toxic, paranoid, depressed subjects.
Mussolini is considered one of the fathers of fascism as it started in Italy with a ghost writer writing the fascist doctrine for him when he was PM of Italy and that nationalistic fascist doctrine spread to other European countries. It’s incredible that you would think that Mussolini was an anti-fascist. Good grief!
NotTacitus:
Mussolini my father and uncles were, in fact, ANTIFA of their day.
You’ve cherry picked my words to take this out of context. Let’s revisit the post as it actually is, OK?
Watchman_Libtard:
This does not remove the fact that by fighting against Hitler, Tojo and Mussolini my father and uncles were, in fact, ANTIFA of their day.
Reads a bit differently than what you posted.
Why did you do that?
Uhh get some coffee dude- I was quoting Watchman Libtard
Jeez dude read my post and what I quoted, you’re the one snipping to create misleading context.
It wasnot as long as i thought. It was the comments that lengthened it.
Here are some key takeawys for me.
– if a worldview treats all discordant knowledge as threat, then it is an ideology. Its adherents learn to see themselves as guardians rather than seekers of the truth. The practical consequences of such a worldview can be devastating.
–…. radical communities also attract people looking for an excuse to be violent illegalists. And the surplus of vulnerable and compassionate people attracts sadists and abusers ready to exploit them.
Most important of all,
–.…radicals should learn to abandon false truths. The only way to escape dogmatism is to resist the calcification and sanctification of values, and to learn from the wisdom of different perspectives. As Haidt argues, there are grains of truth in opposing political positions. Radicals do themselves a disservice by seeing the world of thought outside the radical monoculture as tainted with reaction and evil. There is a rich diversity of thought awaiting them if they would only open their minds to it.*** One of the achievements of liberalism has been a norm of free speech wherein individuals can both share and consume that spectrum of thought. Every new and challenging school of thought I discovered after anarchism rocked my worldview, as somebody who formerly thought that wisdom could only be found through “the struggle” or in esoteric French theory. Even if opposing views are not assimilated, the ability to contend with them on the intellectual field instead of silencing them is a sign of a seeker of the truth, not a guardian.
Thanks for sharing the article!
Notice how @Watchman_Libtard couldn’t manage to stay on topic at all but constantly bitches at people if they don’t stay exactly on topic in his threads.
Sorry bout that, I accidentally replied to you instead f Roxie…
Glad you liked it- I found it quite informative. As to alt right, or White supremacists, I suspect the same ideotheism prevails there.
Here is your precious Antifa attacking a journalist. How brave and patriotic.
https://twitter.com/FarleyFilms/status/1191987876403335170?s=19
Is this supposed to disturb me Robert? Well it doesn’t. Wanna know why Robert?
Because attacking Journalists has become the new normal.
Want to see some more Robert?