Andrew McCarthy: FBI Russia investigation was always about Trump

A good read. Much of this confirms what I have long suspected.

That is a good read. And amazing. I wonder if we’ll ever find out…

I disagree, I think we basically know what happen.

We also know that they will get away with it.

I stopped reading after “faux intelligence reports” regarding the Dossier. Why can’t we all work off of facts rather than conjecture? We know today that many parts of the Dossier have been confirmed. Some of it hasn’t been confirmed or denied (the pee tape).

Again all of these long drawn out conspiracies are a little far fetched when the simple answer is likely the right one. Trump is a what he has been his whole life… a liar and con man. Why would we expect him to be different once he decided to run for the presidency?

OK NF…you can believe Trump is agent of Russian conspiracy…and we will believe that our CoJ and FBI is corrupt to it core.


Works for me. I guess that means we have nothing to discuss. :+1:

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Precisely, especially if we can’t start from a foundation of facts.

Remind me the foundation again?

No, we don’t…

You mean a foundation of gossip. The FBI didn’t even try to verify any of it. The perpetrators of those FISA warrants should have been fired and investigated on Trump’s first day.

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The foundation that the dossier is “faux”. Many parts of the Dossier have been confirmed. Some parts have not been confirmed, nor debunked.

Yes they have. Ignoring it doesn’t make it less true.

No, they haven’t. Claiming they have doesn’t make it true.

From the dossier:

Over the period March-September 2016 a company called [redacted] and its affiliates had been using botnets and porn traffic to transmit viruses, plant bugs, steal data and conduct “altering operations” against the Democratic Party leadership. Entities linked to one [redacted] were involved and he and another hacking expert, both recruited under duress by the FSB, [redacted] were significant players in this operation.

Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing email messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC), to the Wikileaks platform. The reason for using Wikileaks was “plausible deniability” and the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team.

From the indictment of GRU:

Starting in at least March 2016, the Conspirators used a variety of means to hack the email accounts of volunteers and employees of the U.S. presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton (the “Clinton Campaign”), including the email account of the Clinton Campaign’s chairman.

By in or around April 2016, the Conspirators also hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (“DCCC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”). The Conspirators covertly monitored the computers of dozens of DCCC and DNC employees, implanted hundreds of files containing malicious computer code (“malware”), and stole emails and other documents from the DCCC and DNC.

By in or around April 2016, the Conspirators began to plan the release of materials stolen from the Clinton Campaign, DCCC, and DNC.

Beginning in or around June 2016, the Conspirators staged and released tens of thousands of the stolen emails and documents. They did so using fictitious online personas, including “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0.”

How about this.

The thread is about Andrew McCarthy’s op ed.

If you would like to discuss the authenticity of the dossier, please start another thread on the topic rather than hijack this one.

I can respect that. I’ll reserve my thoughts for another thread.

I still think they were intending to make an example of Trump to warn off any others not part of the Deep State.

If only the Democrats could do without their porn…

You are applauding a self-licking ice cream cone.

Of course they are.

“Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer Tuesday evening on MSNBC after host Rachel Maddow informed him that intelligence sources told NBC news that the briefing had not been delayed.

Schumer said it.

Trump threatened the golden goose.