The warnings for these drugs was published since day one. If you look into the cases of those that became addicted you will discover…
Misuse by taking more of the drug than prescribed.
Taking the drugs longer than expected.
Drinking while taking the drugs.
Children living in homes without discipline, not being taught personal responsibility, not being taught morals and values… when they become adults, they have very little skills with which to raise their children. And so, the cycle continues.
IMO, that is why so may look to government to replace that which they never had. I think it also leads to a lot of confusion and self hatred making those individuals more susceptible to drug or alcohol abuse.
Those paddlings at school were part of your moral education, i would argue! I got a few myself.
Yes, for me too, the fear of my parents finding out that i was bad, was my biggest fear. I will definitely concede on that.
I think you are right here… perhaps this warrants a new topic.
Although, following your logic, im not sure schools can be effective at teaching math, english, history, etc., if a student is not motivated by any of the things you listed. If they dont care about suspension, will they care if they fail math class?
You raise some issues that may also need new threads. I definitely hear you, though.
Aside from the controversial topics you mentioned, i think basic values can be agreed upon, and are taught in schools, to some degree.
Point being, I believe a lot of this ties into the abuse of drugs and alcohol for those in their teens and 20’s. No self respect, no self discipline no guidance or goals because no one cared enough to take the time and effort to actually be a parent. So, the kids become rudderless. Why not do drugs?
I completely agree. You are getting to precisely the issue Im trying to discuss. Why do we have such a large number of these families who dont seem to care about values?
I personally think it’s a complicated issue that can better understood by looking at the history of our nation’s society. Ghettos didnt just appear for no reason. Many of them exist because of our history of segregation and racism.
Im definitely not exonerating parents who don’t teach values to their children. I am saying that there is a reason this phenomena exists.
Like you said, it is a cycle that’s passed down, from parent to child, and i dont know what the solution is. Our society is not completely innocent regarding this problem, though. And as such, we bear some responsibility to try to solve it together.
I think you can simply look at the government overstepping.
Years ago family relied on family, their church and neighbors in tough times. It was temporary and you got off your ass to make ends meet. You really had no choice in the matter.
Today, we have housing, free cell phones, free food. The drive needed to survive and take care of family has been eliminated for those who would rather take advantage of that lifestyle versus those who would rather work hard to remove themselves from dependence.
For those of us who are white, yes. I think it was a completely different world, and an even harder struggle, for black families. They couldn’t find jobs, because of their skin color, and they were segregated to the ghettos.
You definitely have a good point, one that I’ve thought about. I’m not sure what the answer is, but i think there has to be a balance, and better incentives for those people to get to work.
Are you honestly saying black people didn’t rely on family, neighbors or church? They were employed or self employed. They paid their bills, they raised their families.
The incentive is to not allow welfare to replace families and self reliance.
This would also partly address why the borders need to be closed and immigration reformed. Every immigrant take a job away from an American. Every immigrant who receives welfare takes away from an American citizen in need.
Thats not at all what i am saying. I’m saying that they experience more hardships and struggles than the average white family. If anything, they probably relied on family and church more than our ancestors did (assuming you are white too).
And you guys say i subvert topics.
But seriously, what does this have to do with the opiod crisis? We have gotten sidetracked a bit, and i can’t blame others, because i like to follow a topic wherever it goes.
I guess low income people, who havent been taught values, are more likely to become addicts?
I still place much of the blame on the drug companies who, knowingly, pushed their addictive opiates on people (through well-meaning doctors, after surgeries or because of other medical conditions). When those people, especially of low income, couldnt afford the prescriptions, they turned to heroin and fentanyl.
There were plenty of “white” people who struggled.
I have hypothesized that the lack of family values and the role the government has played in enabling the destabilization of the family has in part had the unintended consequence of adding to the drug crisis.
You conveniently did not respond to my full post
Thats a red herring… it does not mean my point was invalid
I responded to what I deemed relevant.
I didn’t say it was invalid. Just not as valid as you would like to portray.
Somewhat invalid, is still invalid
You have yet to give a logical argument
Are you a 12 year old troll?
It will all be okay, Dave. Your beliefs and your reality will protect you from all of the bad things out there. Government will be your knight in shining armor.
Don’t worry about what is happening if it belies your sense of equilibrium.
Just shhhhhhh… Calm…Relax…Deep breaths…
My point is it’s a problem with people demanding more drugs from their physician.
But that would be a personal responsibility thing which w rally don’t want to acknowledge as it’s better to pass the blame as you learned so well during the Obama years.
We need to bring back reform schools. Can’t behave yourself in regular school, off to reform school. I know my public school education was completely hampered by the students who weren’t there to learn.