Please explain why 13% of the population still has MORE prisoners than Hispanics or whites ? 
More folks committing crimes.
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Somewhere around 90% of all criminal cases are plead out instead of going to trial. Even if you are completely innocent of the charges (very rare) the odds are really stacked against you if you go to trial.
Because a much higher percentage of them are committing crimes. It isn’t that hard to figure out.
Last I looked blacks commit violent crimes at 7x the rate of whites and commit murders at around 4x the rate of whites which just about mirrors the poverty rates for each.
Apparently for a whole lot of poor folks crime is easier than getting a job.
Of course, once you have a criminal record of any kind it’s just about impossible to get a decent job and if you have a felony record you’re pretty well stuck with minimum wage jobs if you can find one at all so it’s a self perpetuating problem.
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I find it a bit ironic that places are even considering laws like this and yet some of these places also decry enforcing Federal immigration laws because it “could prevent illegals from cooperating with local law enforcement or our judicial system for fear of deportation.” Which is it people?
He didn’t say ALL, though.
Again, you may know him enough to know that’s what he was actually saying, but I can only go by the actual words. And I quoted what I was referencing.
I’m just trying to tone down some of the heat in the thread.
As a GENERAL statement (absent the absolute term “everything”), I agree. You cite a great list of examples – a list that could be expanded by magnitudes.
That does not invalidate my point.
Unfortunately they aren’t. Even black people are more afraid of black people than they are of whites.
There’s good reason for that since 90% of black crime victims are victimized by their fellow blacks but the facts make one more conscious of race than we’d like to admit.
As long as black crime rates remain 400-700% higher than white crime rates that’s not going to change.
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Just pointing out the reality. Few criminal cases ever go to trial.
Considering most illegal aliens are likely to have evidence on other illegal aliens deport them all and let God sort them out. If we don’t know where they come from and they won’t tell pack them off to some camp of Quonset huts north of the Arctic circle till they say where they should go.
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If they aren’t turning in the others there’s a charge for that too. Aiding and abetting. So I’m not really sure why the double speak about enforcement to begin with. I’d say offer temporary visas for turning their buddies in, but I don’t believe in rewarding criminal behavior.
No, that’s not aiding and abetting. You are under no legal obligation to report a crime or to rat anyone out for same.
Aiding and abetting requires specific direct support.
Double speak? “Leftwingers”, “Democrats”, “Alinskites” …
Ok. You got me there.
do you know the definition of the word bigot here it is for you
- intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.
be honest with yourself are you even surprised to find out your a bigot
Try again.
https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-38-171.html
Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 38.171. Failure to Report Felony
(a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) observes the commission of a felony under circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that an offense had been committed in which serious bodily injury or death may have resulted; and
(2) fails to immediately report the commission of the offense to a peace officer or law enforcement agency under circumstances in which:
(A) a reasonable person would believe that the commission of the offense had not been reported; and
(B) the person could immediately report the commission of the offense without placing himself or herself in danger of suffering serious bodily injury or death.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
There are plenty of statistics out there to support this-number or that-number. It’s not important to win the argument that “my number” is more accurate than “your number”.
All the arguments here point to the same reality: Many social ills are grossly concentrated proportionately in minority populations. Crime among them.
As that relates to the topic of the thread, a heavy proportional concentration of 911 calls will be reported against “people of color”. And the Grand Rapids legislation passes, callers to 911 will either have to hold their tongues until they are absolutely sure (which may therefore be too late), or will have to face legal penalties if they turn out to be wrong for feeling threatened in an uncertain situation.
Read it again for yourself Wiley, we’re not talking about violent felonies and the law is all but completely unenforcible as written.
You said no obligation. Now you’re moving the goal posts. Just admit you stand corrected and move on.
- In general, mere knowledge or suspicion that a crime has taken place doesn’t obligate a person to report it as a matter of law, with certain narrowly limited exceptions (see below). I would argue there is a moral obligation to report a serious crime in most cases; a major exception would be in situations where being made a witness could put the reporting person (or their loved ones) in danger.
- In general, there is no legal obligation to report a suspected plan or scheme to commit a crime in the future provided you are totally uninvolved (for example, merely overhearing someone’s conversation on the bus or in a bar.) That said, there are many ways a person can become involved in the commission of a crime by, for example, being present at the scene, conspiring with the others who actually go on to commit the crime, concealing it, helping them hide from the authorities, financing it, and so forth. There is a complex body of case law on this – for example, when a person gets cold feet and withdraws while others go ahead with the plan, etc. It makes for meaty discussions in law school criminal law classes. In general, people who just happen to be around (such as friends or fellow gang members of the perpetrators) may be brought in for questioning, under threat of possible criminal conspiracy charges, and given the opportunity to cooperate with police in giving testimony.
- Affirmative obligations to report crime are very limited and specific, such as:
- A section of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), 18 U.S.C. §2258A, which obligates " electronic service providers " (basically all Internet companies) to report apparent child pornography to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children’s (NCMEC) CyberTipline. See http://bll.la/Br for a FAQ.
- People in privileged relationships , such as teachers, principals, professors, therapists, doctors and others are required by law in some circumstances to break confidentiality and report that their client/patient is either (a) planning to commit a serious, violent crime (see the Tarasoff case in California), or (b) suspected to be the victim of child or elder abuse.
- Criminal defense lawyers have a whole mess of issues related to their duties as an officer of the court, avoiding the commission of perjury, etc., beyond the scope of this question. (Google “noisy withdrawal” if you really want to know.) This includes lawyers dealing with white-collar crime, such as securities fraud and tax evasion.
- I’m sure there are others, like banks being obligated to report suspicious transactions under money-laundering statutes, etc.
Defense for Failure to Report a Felony
There are several defenses in cases involving a failure to report a felony. First, there is the issue of whether or not there are sufficient grounds for the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was reasonable for you to believe a serious crime had been committed. Depending on the circumstances involved, you may have had suspicions or concerns that a felony happened but not certain knowledge. The burden of proof, however, is on the prosecution to prove you had certain knowledge.
Second, even if you had knowledge that a felony had been committed, if you had good reason to believe reporting the crime would have placed you in danger, there may be grounds for dismissing the charges against you. For example, did you have reason to believe that reporting the crime would expose you to physical danger and reprisals? Or, did the perpetrators have you under surveillance, making it difficult if not impossible to report the crime?
Since you have an instant ready made defense built into the law it’s pretty worthless.
The “duty to report” is dependent on so many factors it’s almost impossible to prosecute.