Get after it, show me where he didn’t sign the bills creating the current deficit.
That is not what I said! Again you are trying to twist this around to put words in my mouth!
You said
If I prove that your premise is wrong, will you freely admit here that you were wrong?
That’s exactly what you said and which I’ve quoted two or three times now.
He has signed every spending bill that became law since 2017 that makes him responsible for the deficits created under them.
You are so fucking dense! I never disputed anything that he signed for the third fucking time! I am disputing your premise that the budget deficit ends in a given year.
So asking for third time again here: if I prove that you are wrong on this will you admit it? Otherwise I don’t want to be bothered by your silly game here.
Once again you are melting down because you have nothing else to offer on the subject.
Every dime spent in 2018 was authorized by annual appropriations made prior to or after October one 2017 when the new fiscal year began.
He signed those bills into law. He’s responsible for the spending and the deficits.
Ok so that is a “no” then? Avoid answering a direct question? Its quite simple!
DUH! Thanks for proving my point! That You like repeating yourself!
Then quit claiming otherwise.
Deficits are annual, Debt is the accumulation of those deficits.
Budgets are annual not deficits and I will prove this to you. Just admit that you are wrong if I do. If you agree, then I will take the time to explain this to you.
The house approved the bills and sent them to the senate. The senate approved the appropriation bills.
He could have vetoed them and closed the government, exactly what would that have accomplished?
Congress is responsible for the deficit and past congresses responsible for the debt. Neither would exist if CONGRESS would have simply balanced the bidet. They didn’t so CONGRESS is responsible.
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Both are responsible. Remember Trump caved on the gov’t shutdown because of the bad press. he could have stuck to his guns and pressed his case.
Shutdowns almost always go bad for the republicans in the short term but in the long term they win. They need to stick to their guns.
Exactly how can he be responsible for spending wine 2/3rds of spending is mandated by previous laws???
How exactly is trump responsible for the ACA spending or for SS, Medicare?
To say a president is responsible for spending passed by previous congresses and signed by previous presidents is a very simplistic attitude reflecting he lack of knowledge of how a budget is processed and how appropriations are passed.
But then again this is partisan BS we are engulfed in today.
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Not even close. Sure he could have not signed the bill and facd a very angry country. It’s never been done in the history of the country.
I call BS as 2/3rds of spending is mandated by laws passed by previous congresses. Exactly how can a president be responsible for SS spending this has topped 25% of government spending??? Healthcare which has topped 25%.
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He’s responsible for signing the bills.
Mandatory spending still requires annual appropriations. As long as he signs those appropriations bills he’s responsible for it.
Mandatory spending is not automatic, it still requires annual appropriations.
All mandatory programs can be pared down. Mandatory simply means that they come first.
https://www.cbo.gov/content/what-difference-between-mandatory-and-discretionary-spending
He’s responsible for not shutting down the country.
Perhaps people would get upset of he refused to sign the appropriations bill for SS/medicare/the ACA.
Mandatory spending is controlled by permanent law rather than annual appropriations. Examples are Social Security and the Student Loan Program. The President and the Congress can change the law with respect to the eligibility criteria or the payment formula, and thus change the level of spending on mandatory programs, but annual action is not necessary to ensure the continuation of spending.
Your comment is disingenuous at best.
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Never ever ever say, your right as your track record of last word and pretending to be right would be tarnished.
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He owns the shutdown since he said he was glad to own it.
The problem came when he/his advisors convinced him to cave.
The public was with him, the press was not and they listened to the press instead of the people.
I’ve already posted the link explaining the difference in mandatory and discretionary spending. Both require annual appropriations, mandatory spending simply has to be taken care of first.
He never admits when he is wrong even when presented with the facts! He is the in house “Cliff Claven” an expert at every profession!
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Did you change your avatar after someone called you “rabbi”?