Happy New Year All!
I trust 2020 goes all the places you want and has very few detours to places you don’t like.
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Oh thank you Jimmy, that is lovely. The very same to you too!
I happened to catch this on Monday and strangely there is a group on here advocating a meat only diet with one guy eating only uncooked meat. He bizarely slaughters one of his lambs and starts eating it raw in the documentary.
The only guy with any proof of success happens to be a claimed 113 year old who just eats a normal healthy diet with little meat but plenty of fish and veg, a daily fruit smoothy and some vitamin powder. He walks half an hour every day for a bit of exercise and doesn’t smoke or drink.
Shocker who would have known that was the secret to longevity 
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There is no point taking an omega 3 supplement if you do not lower omega 6. The molecules are very similar and the body will use whatever is available. A by product of omega 6 synthesis is prostaglandins which are inflammatory.
The highest source of omega 3 is fish. The highest source of omega 6 is… vegetable oils. Not good and that is even before they are hydrogenated. They are unstable when heated, producing aldehydes, which are carcinogenic, because of their double carbon carbon bonds. (Polyunsaturated means more than one of such bonds). Their instability means it is easy to mess about with their chemical structure producing frankenstein stuff that supposedly imitates meat.
Vegans are really doomed.
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I think it was the late eighties / early nineties when the uk government et all started to tell us as a nation we should replace our butter, lards and suets with “much healthier” sunflower oils and even spray on crap for frying. It is not hard to see why conspiracy theorists believe nothing spoken by governments.
Something I keep meaning to do is look at the lifespans and health profiles of fish eating nations. I assume they should be at the extremes of longetivity ( the good extreme )
I think (from what I vaguely picked up from various documentaries over the years) that heavily depending fish eaters like the eskimo’s don’t fair so well because they have little variation but I suspect Japanese and other east asians might fair better.
At least I have given myself one task for 2020 so that’s filled up my to do list for the year 
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Thanks asaratis now I can take the year off 
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That’s it !!
Always take your walks when the pubs are shut…
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So that is it, always roll your spliff in a €uro note !
It is interesting how the average for Zimbabwe is 57, and yet Mugabe made it into his 90s
The Japanese are famed for longevity. However it seems from a look at the document provided by Asaratis that general affluence plays a significant role.
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IT certainly appears so. The results are a little skewed of course because Monaco being at the top has little to do with Monaco per se as the majority of inhabitants are from outside of Monaco. There are very few people who are born there that are allowed to claim Monagasque status.
And yes you are still mostly right because those who move into Monaco have only moved there because they had spare millions to do so, hence they had already been living a healthy (wealthy) lifestyle.
Oh and yes money can buy happiness and it removes tremendous amounts of stress that normal society has to deal with, which of course is fast becoming recognised as a major influence in illnesses causing early death.
Doesn’t that just prove a direct link between longevity and wealth?
How many rich old ppl do you know - how many poor old ppl do you know.
Doesn’t that just prove a direct link between longevity and wealth?
Yep @Magog that is what Ex is saying and I agree. sorry if my explanation suggested otherwise. I am still convinced that as much as eating habits aid the wealthy’s longevity the lack of stress over money worries is a big factor that aids their longevity.
The point I was making was that the claim of Monaco being the top country for longevity is not relevant because the majority of citizens living and dying in Monaco are from other countries, so they aren’t actually Monegasque. Monaco does have the benefit that old people are protected from yobs in the community, there is little traffic to get knocked over crossing the road, the air is quite clean but certainly no better than countryside living, otherwise it doesn’t offer much to aid mass longevity.
How many rich old ppl do you know - how many poor old ppl do you know.
umm not sure how to answer this one ! are you assuming jo average who’s retired, living off their pension in their paid off house is part of the poor group ?
Obviously these folks are in the majority so on mass there will be more old poor ( folk ) than wealthy but by percent I would expect the rich live longer.
How many I personally know in each category certainly won’t be representative of the overall numbers, in fact it would skew the data 
I work at a number of nursing homes doing acupuncture/massage work in Japan. There are a number of folks over 90, sometimes of 100 but there’s no quality of life.
Many are hopelessly demented, they don’t even know if they live or have died, and they don’t even care.
Hit the nail on head Didge. My old man is still alive at 92 but can’t remember what his last sentence was. Longevity only means something if you are still having a productive life, to me anyway. I’d rather bow out at 70 without any issues up to that point, than the thought of living another 30 years with multiple health issues and the heart kept beating by a cocktail of meds but confined to a chair and the four walls.
Of course if the mind and body keep me active happy to hang around but because I’ve seen what happened to my parents, I will be vigilant for the signs and hopefully know when it is time to hop off the bus.
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Dementia is very big in Japan. One reason, I suspect, is the rampant use of MSG which over the years will do a number on your brain.
Once you’re in a nursing home and have dementia, it will be impossible to die, because they will stick a tube into your stomach and force-feed you.
The worst case I saw was a woman in her late 70s and she had contracture of fingers, wrists, arms and neck. The only thing she could freely move was her eyeballs. To make matters worse, she was not demented.
What a torture it must be, because she can’t speak…
Of course it is hypothetically possible to communicate with her by the use of a computer. She could blink her eyes to say yes/no and move eyeballs to make certain statements, but which nursing home would bother to do that?
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