SO MUCH WINNING! Border Patrol released more than 375,000 illegal aliens directly into US šŸ¤£

:roll_eyes: Thereā€™s no way of ā€˜identifyingā€™ anybody if they have no ID papers; they might have arrived at your southern border from anywhere in the world?? Just stop replying to my posts - your naivete seriously depresses me.

Every single day, American citizens die or are seriously injured by people who should not be in this country. When do our citizens have the right to live & be safe?

Why donā€™t dummycrats mention obamamama when he did worst ? What would other Countries do to law breakers ?

No itā€™s simple reality. You live in a small Island nation. You have no idea what itā€™s like trying to secure a nation that has over 2,500 miles of land borders much less one that has a 1,200mi land border with a shithole country like Mexico.

Other than a shared language we have virtually nothing in common and certainly not geographically.

Dumbass, every illegal taken into custody is finger printed and has a DNA sample taken.

All we have is a right to self defense and a govā€™t that is supposed to maintain our borders, and police the country.

We donā€™t get to randomly murder people because we think they might be illegals that might commit a crime at some point in the future.

Jesus wept! None of that proves who or what they are does it? In other words (because I obviously need to explain it in simple terms for you), unless you already have records of their fingerprints and DNA, which you wonā€™t have, then that information is meaningless. For example, taking their fingerprints and DNA wonā€™t tell you theyā€™re not drugs barons, paedophiles, mass murderers/rapists, master criminals, subversives , terrorists, prison escapees, or other undesirables, so WTFā€™s the point of taking their fingerprints and DNA which will prove absolutely nothing, and then allowing them into the country as bona fide refugees? And Iā€™m the ā€˜dumbassā€™?? :roll_eyes:

Iā€™ve now read the above 3 times to make sure Iā€™ve got it right, because your reasoning is so stupendously bizarre that itā€™s made me doubt my own reasoning.

No its not meaningless, and its obvious you have zero experience when it comes to US immigration enforcement and its policies.

Where in your infinite wisdom that is flushed with such presumptions do you think they are refugees?

Crapola shinola you really love exposing your ignorance on the topic at hand and have zero clue what is happening when it comes to our Southern border immigration crisis and enforcement procedures. Try sticking and worrying about your own countryā€™s immigration issues before making a fool of yourself here by trying to opine on ours, because you certainly do that with such ignorant arguments you present here!

Seeing you have chosen to answer for TWR (and thatā€™s presupposing that youā€™re not TWR, and Iā€™m still not convinced of that? :rofl: ), perhaps you could address my central point of what is to be gained by taking the fjngerprints and DNA of every Tom, Dick, and Harry (Tomas, Ricardo, y Enrique lol) who turns up on your southern border seeking entry into the US? In your own time . . . I wonā€™t be holding my breath.

Well like I said before on this stupid accusation on your part that if you actually check the profiles of each of us you would know the time stamps and IP addresses are different. Sorry, but by making such claims only exposes your ignorance yet again. :rofl:

Also another example of your limited knowledge on the topic, where a simple google search and a little time invested in doing your own research to educate yourself on the subject instead of asking others to do that for you would answer your question.

Many ā€œeconomic immigrantsā€ not refugees, are finger printed and DNAā€™ed sampled for cataloging the IE data base. A lot of illegal immigrants who get deported often try to cross the border again and it has happened on many occasions, sometimes as many as 7 times. Having such a data base not only makes identification easier but cross referencing for law enforcement purposes that makes it more efficient for immigration officials to identify outstanding warrants for crimes Illegals have committed either in their own country or in the US to which they get processed accordingly. This is the main reason, but there are others too but I am not your persona researcher and I am not going to do what you are too lazy to do on your own! Again go educate yourself for not doing so is only embarrassing yourself!

This might give you a bit of an edge in addressing other immigration issues to which will be a blessing in disguise.

Well all of that sounds like a bureaucratic imbroglio of confusion. Iā€™ve said here before that the idea is to stop them arriving at the border in the first place, and that it could be achieved in one of two ways: 1. Mail drops over their countries warning them not to travel because theyā€™ll be wasting their time, and be instantaneously turned back without appeal upon arrival; and 2. To make applications for entry - whether theyā€™re refugees or economic migrants, itā€™s irrelevant - at the US Embassies in the respective countries prior to travelling, allow time for the embassies to check the validity of their stories, and await a reply. Iā€™m convinced that that would stop the caravans and mass movements at a stroke, and that in turn would obviate the chaos. And the happy spin-off of my ingenuity is there would be no need for a wall, so win-win all the way, and problem solved?? Blimey Iā€™m so smart it frightens me! :sunglasses:

Thanks for proving once again you have zero knowledge on the subject matter. As if you are smarter than the ones who are actually at the border and part of the enforcement process. Thanks that is good for a laugh! :joy:

Air drops? Are you serious? Why would they waste money when most have access to the internet? Holy crap! You still living in 1940? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Again more ignorance on your part! It is relevant what their status is as that determines what type of visas they will be granted, as well as an important detail that is included in the profile of each case to which they are requesting entry in the US.

2nd: Again if you actually knew what the hell you were talking about the policy of making migrants await in their own countries as they apply at US embassies is already in effect and has been which is another reason why mass immigration and caravans have gone down significantly. If you werenā€™t such a block head TWR already tried to point that out to you already!

Please stop embarrassing yourself here! You are clueless about current events and recent development regarding our Southern Border!

All you keep doing is telling me I donā€™t know what Iā€™m talking about, when itā€™s simply a combination of pure logic and common sense which are needed. Another fact which seems to have escaped you is that only a handful out of thousands already apply at the embassies, but the arrival numbers prove beyond any doubt that the vast majority of them donā€™t?? Oh, and not all of them have access to the internet? Indeed, Iā€™d say only 1 in a hundred do.

Dude you are trying to base an argument on pure bullshit, when you havenā€™t the slightest clue on how our immigration laws work or specifically what they are. So that is the obvious fact that clearly escapes you. All the rest of your arguments here is based on your ignorance and that is the point I am trying to make clear to you. If everything in life was as simple as you try to make it out to be then I am sure the problem would have been resolved already.

Tell me something, what is it that you do or you are an expert at regarding your profession?

See what I mean? Iā€™m not really an expert at anything, but I do have bags of common sense and a keen logic. Very often, experts ā€˜canā€™t see the wood for the treesā€™?

Except you are trying to argue about something you donā€™t have a clue about such as US immigration law and the issue of illegal immigration within the US. You are not even a US citizen yet here you are making such assumptions based on ignorance!

And yes it does matter at being an expert in a profession because telling that expert you know more than them while admitting you are a mere novice at such subject matters only castigates yourself as being the fool! Are you going to tell an engineer how to build a bridge when you have no prior knowledge or the education and training to build it yourself? Think about that for a moment because itā€™s apparent you havenā€™t thought that part through very much which makes your arguments here extremely silly!

There is nothing to be gained by you parroting insults in my direction, so Iā€™m bowing out of this exchange.

You invite those insults with your own ridiculous suppositions that you presented here!

For example: If lets say you are an expert at water purification as an example, I am not going to try to assume I know more than you at such subject matters when you had a life time of experience at being a water purification specialist. Its the same argument I could make about knowing about your countryā€™s immigration policies, which BTW I do not so I donā€™t try to insert my opinions about what I think should happen in order to fix it. The point is seek first to understand before being understood!

So you should! Because you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to our (US) Southern Border or immigration issues.

FFS weā€™re not talking about ā€˜building bridgesā€™ or ā€˜water purificationā€™, weā€™re talking about a social problem and how best to deal with it. I obviously wouldnā€™t know what your immigration laws are, but if they need to be changed, and it sounds like they do, then go to your congressman (whatever) to change them, not me.