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A new video appears to show doctors collapsing in a hospital in China as the deadly coronavirus mutates and continues to spread.

Terrifying videos of Contagion-like scenes appear to show people infected with coronavirus being taken in boxes and tubes, while doctors collapse in the middle of a hospital.

A Chinese reporter posted a video to Twitter showing a patient being wheeled from an airport in a large container.

In another posted earlier this week by Radio Free Asia Chinese, a patient appears to be sealed in a tube as they are removed from an ambulance in Huizhou, a city in the southern Guangdong province.

Meanwhile, another video shows doctors appearing to collapse in a hospital in Wuhan, reportedly related to the virus.

A patient in the US is being kept in a 6m containment room and being treated by a robot with a stethoscope so doctors don’t come in contact with the virus.

China says the virus is adapting and mutating, making it difficult to get under control.

The country is locking down more cities, including its famous The Forbidden City, as the deadly infection spreads rapidly.

The respiratory virus has claimed 25 lives since emerging from a seafood and animal market in the central city of Wuhan.

There have been 24 deaths in Wuhan, the “epicentre of this outbreak”, and one in Beijing, Australia’s chief medical officer Professor Brendan Murphy confirmed on Friday afternoon.

“They have pretty much been in elderly people or people with other medical conditions,” he said.

“People who are generally frail – that’s the word we’re getting from China.

“Approximately 25 per cent of people who contract this infection and who have been detected and diagnosed seem to get a more severe illness, but we do know, or we do suspect, that there are a number of additional cases that are so mild that they haven’t come to attention and been detected or diagnosed at the moment.”

No cases have been confirmed in Australia.

Prof Murphy said there are now 844 cases worldwide including 14 outside of China detected as far away as the United States.

Fourteen people in the UK are being tested. Five of those have been confirmed negative and nine are still waiting for results.

It’s understood five are from Scotland and another has been tested at the Royal Victoria Infirmary in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

“The risk to the Scottish public remains low,” a Scottish government spokesman said.

Despite China locking down some 20 million people, the World Health Organisation said the disease did not yet constitute a global health emergency.

The new virus has caused alarm because of its similarity to SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome), which killed nearly 650 people across mainland China and Hong Kong in 2002-2003.

But after two days of talks to determine the level of global concern, the World Health Organisation yesterday stopped short of declaring a so-called a public health emergency of international concern — declaration used for the gravest epidemics.

“This is an emergency in China, but it has not yet become a global health emergency,” WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters in Geneva.

WHO had postponed its decision by a day, after Chinese authorities announced unprecedented measures to rein in the spread of the virus.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-patients-transported-in-plastic-boxes-and-tubes-to-stop-infections-spread/news-story/2fd906d1c4aed3fc6b3110efa57584d9

That is simply not true Nor factual. We had a heated discussion about this before in the past, to which I admit I lost my cool with you on, but I am only insistent on this because I researched this subject matter quite extensively and know for a fact that this was a lab experiment that went horribly wrong as monkeys and their parts were used. Exodus is correct as this has already been proven by the scientists involved, and I provided a documentary that backs it up. The bigger question and controversy that has never been proven but yet still persists to this day as being plausible is if the Scientists involved intentionally used a unsuspecting population in Africa as test subjects without following proper protocols to prevent their exposure to having adverse effects. This raised some serious ethical issues one in which the scientific community at time was seriously conflicted by. Lastly I was doing research for an independent group at the time the virus was discovered and was sent to attend a lecture of the French scientist who discovered the virus in Buffalo NY at the University of New York and he pretty much corroborated this point of view of where the aids virus originated from. It was not from eating monkeys as you originally asserted.

It’s just incorrect. It has been traced as far back as the 1920’s crossing from chimps to humans in the congo.

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We’re talking about HIV.

Alright I am not going to debate this with you on this subject again. We apparently disagree and I will stand by what I learned about it as being more factual especially from the Scientists involved in this specific virus. Like I said it has been proven already by the scientific community.

There is no acceptance of that by the scientific community, it’s a false claim.

the first known case was confirmed to have occurred in the 20’s.

I don’t doubt you had the experiences you cite, but the facts do not support their claims.

Read this article about the discredited vaccine theory.

There is acceptance by scientific community in which supports my assertion! So you are incorrect! Your article that you cite is mostly a hypothesis that suggests the HIV virus mutated from the SIV strand thought to be in various species of monkeys at the time but no where does it claim an exact time or date where humans came in contact with it, therefore the claim of the HIV virus in humans was unknown! The fact that Scientists were using monkey kidneys in lab experiments in the 1950’s and as well as the earliest known case of a human being affected by the HIV virus supports my statement! Furthermore the same article you cited is not only seriously lacking in peer review but it’s references are questionable as well, seeing that the virus was not identified until the 1980’s which your cited source acknowledges, I will firmly stand by my statement as being more accurate.

It’s not a hypothesis, it was proven through the DNA studies.

This thread isn’t about GRIDS.

It’s totally relevant. The easiest way to stop it is to identify how it passes to humans. Until you do so there is always going to be a natural reservoir population ready to spread to more humans.

No it was not! Do you even read your own cited sources? Your cited source only estimates when the first case HIV-1 virus was first detected no where does it state it as being fact based on evidence only that it’s a possibility! Even the leading Scientists in the world acknowledges no knows exactly when it originated hence the operative most widely used in peer review publications “estimates “ which DNA sampling will not determine! What I am willing to accept from your cited article is where HIV-1 strand may have had its first synthesis and eventually evolved over time, but no where does it state that DNA testing corroborates HIV-1 was was first discovered in 1920’s as you originally asserted !

This is a comprehensive explanation that is peer reviewed of the evolution of the aids virus and it acknowledges that it’s not known exactly when, it only estimates!

Lol, die a thousand deaths eating each other…:roll_eyes:

You have to actually read the first article and follow the links to the studies.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/346/6205/56.full

https://www.theaidsinstitute.org/education/aids-101/where-did-hiv-come-0

Follow the last link. The first confirmed case was from 1949. Further testing took the timeline back to the 20’s.

The vaccine hypothesis was debunked long ago.

One more for you.

The hidden history of the HIV pandemic

Rail and river transport in 1960s Congo, combined with the sexual revolution and changes in health care practices, primed the HIV pandemic. Faria et al. unpick the circumstances surrounding the ascendancy of HIV from its origins before 1920 in chimpanzee hunters in the Cameroon to amplification in Kinshasa. Around 1960, rail links promoted the spread of the virus to mining areas in southeastern Congo and beyond. Ultimately, HIV crossed the Atlantic in Haitian teachers returning home. From those early events, a pandemic was born.

Science , this issue p. 56

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/346/6205/56.abstract

I have followed it, but it still fails to definitely to provide concrete evidence to support its assertions as being fact to which that the scientific community has accepted as such only as a possibility. At the end of day, it’s still an estimate therefore still unknown! Let’s just agree to disagree on this OK? You have your beliefs and I have mine so let’s not have a pissing contest over who is right or wrong for this is a much debated topic that no scientist has ever reached a consensus on conclusively which your sources also states and acknowledges.

As I’ve already stated, D_M, (although you were obviously sceptical of it) I’m a published writer, and don’t lack comprehension skills; and if there’s one thing I’m certainly not short of, it’s common sense.

Better than nothing though Didge? Check out the 1917/18 'flu pandemic, that wasn’t a joke. Call me neurotic, but I was browsing ‘surgical masks’ half an hour ago. :mask: :grimacing:

Well regardless of your claims as being a published writer you certainly have a habit of cherry picking tag lines to support your warped views and biases! As I said before asserting that going to the source to learn about the virus’s origins as being irrelevant is not only absurd but plain ignorant! If you were to tell a biologist that, they would laugh in your face and think you were nuts! Case closed!

As I suggested earlier - that’s a given, so there’s no need to keep harping on about it?

You’re confusing my debating style with my grammar and comprehension abilities.

Really? Then tell me how you justify making such statements as being a debating style if it’s not what you meant literally? The fact that you doubled down on it when I pointed this out to you makes your last statement contradictory.