Official Coronavirus Thread - The Next Airborne Misery - Open General ☣

Was in two different supermarkets in England today. All toilet paper gone, all paracetamol gone.

A friend has been phoning me reporting on supermarkets as he tours another part of England. No TP in any of them.

The TP-mania is beyond me. I have more bottles of chilli sauce and more packets of biscuits than I have packets of TP.

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Trump should have already mandated a quarantine across the US…right at the start of the spread in China. That would have been the only way to keep the infection rate down. But no, he let his handlers in Tel Aviv tell him just to worry about the economy, ignore his medical staff, and ignore history:

Here’s the thing everyone…you’ll likely be fine…until the economy fails and the job losses are depression level. Saudi oil war anyone, don’t forget to buy that dip the trillions are endless. Until the stores don’t get restocked and real rioting and looting starts. How are those ports doing? Heard manufacturing is in for a squeeze. Until wide ranging quarantines are implemented because hospital beds are full. Heard the air in China is the best in years, streets are clean and safe. Until everyone that has any connection to healthcare got sick. Don’t forget Drs #1, 2, 3, etc. Don’t forget the Red Death is just one of many problems presently stewing. The boil has come to a head and is getting lanced. Soon the pus of this civilizations decay will be let loose. I for one welcome the turning of the wheel. This isn’t a black-pill it is an opportunity and when that mindset is taken- you’ll find liberation in it. Embrace what is going on and survive it, but even slight delusion as a means of coping will just make the hit that much harder. Those of you who are not indoctrinated and brainwashed normies all know this already-

NO ONE IS GETTING OUT OF THIS UNAFFECTED

Most will come out alive but our whole civilization is in for a pretty significant change.

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Opinion

What We Don’t Know About the Coronavirus Is What Scares Us

Mar 05, 2020 12:01 AM

What We Don't Know About the Coronavirus Is What Scares Us

Source: Cheng Min/Xinhua via AP

The recent spread of the coronavirus is causing a global panic. Our shared terror arises not so much from the death toll of the new flu-like disease – more than 3,000 people have died worldwide – but from what we don’t know about it.

Experts at least agree that the virus originated in China. But Beijing’s authoritarian government hid information about its origins, spread and severity for weeks.

Such duplicity only fanned the fears of a global plague – a hysteria not seen since the groundless fears of a YK2 global computer meltdown in the year 2000, or the political feeding frenzy during the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Wild speculation followed that the coronavirus was a virulent or mutated superbug. Had it arisen naturally or escaped from a nearby military lab? Did it originate from a sick lab animal? A conspiracy theory arose that it was a manufactured virus that had escaped from scientists’ botched efforts to create either a vaccine or a biological weapon.

Is the outbreak an indication that China’s scientists are well behind their Western peers, at least in the areas of virology and bacteriology? Or is the problem that Chinese culture still features outdated traditions such as open-air “wet markets”? Unfounded rumors spread that the virus may have originated in one of these markets, where exotic mammals such as bats and pangolins are still sold for human consumption. For all China’s gleaming high-speed-rail lines and new airports, hundreds of millions of Chinese still live in places with suspect food safety and waste disposal – the historic incubators of epidemics.

The method of the contagion has been perplexing to experts. Why is the mortality rate for infected patients in Iran roughly double that of patients in countries such as South Korea, Italy and Japan? Why have almost no children under 10 died from the infection?

Are governments unable (or unwilling) to count the infected, given the similarities in symptoms between the coronavirus and various colds and flus? Does such uncertainty suggest that we are undercounting the number of people sickened or killed by coronavirus?

Or are we instead overestimating its dangers? Thousands of patients may have already recovered from mild cases – and perhaps never knew they were sick in the first place.

Evidence suggests that only about 2 percent of patients will die after infection. As in the case of other viral illness, the unfortunate victims are mostly elderly people with existing illnesses. Does that pattern suggest the coronavirus may be more like annual influenza outbreaks – deadly to thousands but hardly the stuff to shut down a global economy?

The common theme of history’s great plagues – Athens in 430 B.C., Constantinople in 541 and the Black Plague of 1347-- was that preindustrial conditions of filth and ignorance helped spread what were usually bacterial diseases transmitted by lice, fleas and rodents.

Real plagues can certainly change history. A stricken Athens afterwards lacked the power to defeat Sparta in the Peloponnesian War. The Byzantine emperor Justinian would never finish his half-completed dreams of a new reunited Rome. The Black Plague helped usher in the end of the Middle Ages.

Great literature – from Thucydides, Procopius, Boccaccio and Camus – often chronicled the human suffering, and especially the hysteria, that follows from the breakdown of civilized norms.

History also reminds us that nature remains unforgiving. We may live in the age of the Internet, smartphones and jet travel, but viruses are indifferent to so-called human progress.

Modern life squeezes millions into cities as never before. Jet travel, with its crowded planes and airports, can spread diseases from continent to continent in hours.

Globalization is a two-edged sword. It may enrich billions of people, but the leveling effects of instant communication and travel can spread disease at a speed undreamed of in the past.

The dissemination of sophisticated Western science to non-Western societies that lack advanced research centers may be increasingly suicidal. Borders are now considered passe in the age of globalization. But their enforcement reminds us that not all nations are alike. All sovereign peoples should have the right to take measures for their own safety well beyond the purview of the transnational elites.

Finally, is it wise or safe to allow hundreds of thousands of homeless to live crowded among filth, vermin and squalor on the sidewalks of America’s major cities?

The coronavirus threat and the unfounded hysteria that has accompanied it will pass.

But the specter of a pandemic offers a timely warning to remember that we are not necessarily any more immune from volatile nature – and humankind’s paranoid response to it – than were the ancients.

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Inevitably there is an Israeli story that just might shed some light on what has been going on in China. Scientists at Israel’s Galilee Research Institute are now claiming that they will have a vaccine against coronavirus [ in a few weeks](https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101 …) which will be ready for distribution and use within 90 days.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/53083.htm

I highly doubt that is the case. They are just hyping themselves up as they always do. It’s probably just a pump and dump scheme to get investors to pour money into their company that they can then pocket and shut the company down saying the vaccine is not effective.

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It’s just the flu, bro.

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Will the author change his mind when he is in a tent in a parking lot, being #5492 in line for the privilege of using a ventilator?

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This surpassed SARS on Day 20. It took SARS 190 days to reach the point Covid on Day 20 did.

Countries are officially on worst case scenario alert. UK’s most realistic projection of pandemic scenario is 33.3mn infected here with around 550,000 deaths due in large part to a NHS collapse,lack of supplies,the prioritising of patients i.e Young go before the old etc.

Whats so dangerous about Covid is the rapid spread and the numbers that require hospitalisation. Right now officially globally there are 17,891 cases in “critical care” in hospitals. It also equally infects young and old alike.

Its now adapting and mutating in all environments. Cases confirmed in every continent and climate possible. It’s now spreading rapidly in the jungles and tropics.

As it stands its more lethal than the Spanish Flu of 1918 (infected 25% of the planets population at the time before widespread global travel) in terms of death rates. If it infects as many people based on global population we could be looking at 66-72mn dead within 2 years or even higher if it mutates further on the current 3.4% official publicly known fatality rate. It will likely be far worse if it becomes full pandemic.

Influenza per year 0.6% fatality rate, hospitalization rate 15.3%

Influenza outbreak of 1958 1.2% fatality rate, hospitalization rate 21.4%

Spanish Flu of 1918-1920 2% fatality rate, hospitalization rate 31.3%

Covid 19 3.4% fatality rateb(so far), hospitalization rate 36.9% (so far).

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It’s just the flu, bro.

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LOOK AT THAT STOCK MARKET DOING SO WELL

I found a demonstration of the Israeli cure for the Coronavirus being used. Highly effective!

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If that were true they wouldn’t have had a pandemic which now threatens the collapse of their economy and potentially a world wide recession.

The Dow ended up for the week with the Friday close.

That is true. It’s precisely what China did while the US government sits around with its thumb up its ass.

Ended up…or ended slightly higher after it nosedived? Be clear. You are insinuating positive market movements which is a lie.

@Magog
If Israel has a vaccine and cure (effective or not) ahead of other countries, it probably initiated it.

Infections in Iran? What a coincidence.

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Boomers know the difference between illegible and ineligible.

This boomer has never done anything in your list … I am sorry that you were neglected as a child. Now please try to stay on topic. :+1:

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Recent intelligence suggests that doctors in Wuhan were dealing with a sharp rise in the numbers suffering with pneumonia with no apparent cause. This suggests that the virus was alive and kicking well before January this year.

If you think briefly about the behaviours of (some) working people, they are more likely to work or push through a ‘cold’ rather than lose pay etc. Therefore the opportunity for COVID-19 to spread widely was well established before people cottoned onto the existence of this virus.

There have so far been two deaths in the UK, one of the expirees was 80+

Seems that this particular person was with terminal cancer, had a few other issues and finally expired. BTW (s)he tested positive for COVID-19 … guess what people believe killed this person…?

Yeah, starting with Trump himself…:man_shrugging: