Yes, my statement was tongue in cheek
There are too many front line healthcare workers and families that have seen the seriousness of this virus, for this to be an argument that gains traction.
I have to agree with you here, at least in part. Big pharma and the Ag industry has had their hands down the pants of government for a long time.
According to who ? There have been so many so front line nurses/doctors who have come out and declared it as nonsense, of course they have been dismissed. The happy clappers just fall in line for fear of losing their positions. It’s all a theatrical production.
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I’m not finding these stories, so please share.
Of course not because you don’t live in the UK. Are going to play the contrarian on that too?
It’s much more sinister than that my friend! Of course you know this already as does a few others here too. So are we suppose to do their research for them too?
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Probably not. Would you agree that it would be disingenuous of me to argue against evidence that I haven’t even seen yet.
I did a quick Google but the results weren’t really what StuFX was talking about so I thought I would ask them directly for their evidence.
Why are you so combative?
Why are you using Google? Do you not know how to do proper research using alternative search engines?
This isn’t the best example but first one to hand, quite honestly you would have to have been living in a cave to have not heard or seen these stories. The press generally don’t cover the opinion of the nurse or doctor but are quite happy to report the as conspiracy theorists etc
Much of this stuff circulates on social media until the likes of twitter, f/book etc delete the posts which share the thick of the information. The stories are out there if you dig.
There are too many front line healthcare workers and families that have seen the seriousness of this virus, for this to be an argument that gains traction.
What do you call this then? Seems to me you are seeking to invalidate Stu’s argument without consideration for validation
I also use duckduckgo and Google scholar. That’s not really the point
But it is the point because it clearly shows you lack the skills to perform actual proper research for finding the truth.
Are you interested in knowing the truth or just feeding your own confirmation biases? Which one is it? Which one do you prefer?
Thank you.
I hope not. She was reported by her colleagues, not by management, if that tells you anything. Why weren’t her colleagues in agreement with her?
You really think all these people who have devoted their lives to helping and caring for others (I’m talking about nurses mostly) would actively promote a hoax of this magnitude?
Sinister it is but no ambition to change anyone’s mind. Share what you/we know and leave it sitting there. I’m not familiar with Duncan or what material he has been exposed to and don’t mind doing so much but I don’t care either way about convincing him that’s for sure.
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https://yournews.com/2020/10/17/1881856/international-group-of-medical-doctors-call-covid-19-a-hoax/
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I think what I think, I don’t share to convince you I share just to share, you can make your own mind up.
Now about that devotion to saving lives. There are good nurses and doctors out there for sure and they really prove their worth when they reject most of what they have been taught. You see many do actually care and they give thought to their hippocratic oath of “first, do no harm” and look beyond what their big pharma sponsored curriculums taught them and realise that they have mostly been involved in managing illness for the interests of others, rather than the good health of the individual.
I veered there slightly but to get back to your point the nurses who would take part, probably do so out of a feeling of hopelessness, they are often in very precarious positions in terms of juggling family, home, work and of course debt. Debt is a major component in keeping many a person subdued, that is why in all walks of life it is actively encouraged, the banks can’t get you in deep enough. The thought of losing your job and consequently your home is a tough choice compared to just look the other way and say “I’m just doing job”, there are so many psychology studies out there that illustrate just how far from what would be considered ethical behaviour, people are prepared to go. There are of course other forms of pressure and with a few clicks plenty to read around such matters.
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Apologies if this has been posted before